Black Caps vs Windies Series
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@siam said in Black Caps vs Windies Test Series:
@mn5 no Ish either. A bit odd as it looks like he's got enough ingredients to be developed. Thought having him in the squad would help that but I assume they're helping him work on his game.
Larsen said they wanted to be loyal to Astle as he was picked in India before getting injured, and deserves a chance. Ish will be in the T20 squad.
Guptill is still not 100% but is close. No mention of either Anderson or Neesham in response to questions.
Latham will be the captain in games 2 and 3.
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@bovidae said in Black Caps vs Windies Test Series:
@siam said in Black Caps vs Windies Test Series:
@mn5 no Ish either. A bit odd as it looks like he's got enough ingredients to be developed. Thought having him in the squad would help that but I assume they're helping him work on his game.
Larsen said they wanted to be loyal to Astle as he was picked in India before getting injured, and deserves a chance. Ish will be in the T20 squad.
Guptill is still not 100% but is close. No mention of either Anderson or Neesham in response to questions.
Latham will be the captain in games 2 and 3.
Shit that's a serious fall from grace for Jimmy and Corey ( assuming both are fit ? )
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@snowy said in Black Caps vs Windies Test Series:
@chris-b said in Black Caps vs Windies Test Series:
so usually only have a handful of runs to knock off if they're batting 4th.
Not following you there? These are the highest chases so the over 300's, etc in the fourth innings and a lot of them won the game with only 4 or 5 down. As I said how many more would they have made if the match wasn't over?
So yes, agree that stats don't tell the whole story about run chases. Time remaining is also a factor that isn't covered in the stats.
Just talking about tests, in general. When e.g. Oz plays Zimbabwe, they're not going to get a chance to make any sort of substantive 4th innings score.
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Satnav gets the last two with consecutive balls to improve his test average.
Timmy won't be amused when he reviews the previous over. He got smacked for two sixes and change, but one of the other balls brushed the toe end of the bat and was caught behind, but not given and not reviewed.
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seriously noncompetitive start to the Australasian cricketing summer
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I'm not 100% convinced the ball did hit the bat, or that there was evidence to give the batsmen out. The big white mark on hotspot was from the bat hitting the ground.
NZ did as expected in this series, winning 2-0 with neither test going into the 5th day. The Windies will be much better in the short-forms.
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Trent Boult is the Sixth Best left arm pace bowler of all time going on number of test wickets.
Wasim Akram (PAK), 414 wickets, 23.62 Average
WPUJC Vaas (SL), 355, 29.58
MG Johnson (AUS), 313, 28.40
Z Khan (INDIA), 311, 32.94
GS Sobers (WI), 235, 34.03
TA Boult (NZ), 200, 28.56 -
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@bovidae said in Black Caps vs Windies Test Series:
I'm not 100% convinced the ball did hit the bat, or that there was evidence to give the batsmen out. The big white mark on hotspot was from the bat hitting the ground.
NZ did as expected in this series, winning 2-0 with neither test going into the 5th day. The Windies will be much better in the short-forms.
Timely as I was watching this today. Not saying your doubts are in this league but by Christ it still rankles - we had them on toast.
Sorry for the distraction but someone mentioned competitive tests
9 minutes in (if you like hitting your knob with a hammer repeatedly)
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@mn5 said in Black Caps vs Windies Test Series:
Some impressive names on that list.....
Not really. It surprises me that Left Arm fast/seam bowlers are very under-represented. I'd guess only Akram would make a top 20 of all time list out of those guys.
There are some good but not great middling bowlers on that list. Although lots of cricket bowling lists are getting like that tbh due to the shear number of tests played in modern cricket (surprising given how much we moan about lack of tests).
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@rapido said in Black Caps vs Windies Test Series:
@mn5 said in Black Caps vs Windies Test Series:
Some impressive names on that list.....
Not really. It surprises me that Left Arm fast/seam bowlers are very under-represented. I'd guess only Akram would make a top 20 of all time list out of those guys.
There are some good but not great middling bowlers on that list. Although lots of cricket bowling lists are getting like that tbh due to the shear number of tests played in modern cricket (surprising given how much we moan about lack of tests).
Wasim is a dead set all time great but the others are all pretty good. I hear Sobers could bat a bit too.
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@mn5 said in Black Caps vs Windies Test Series:
@rapido said in Black Caps vs Windies Test Series:
@mn5 said in Black Caps vs Windies Test Series:
Some impressive names on that list.....
Not really. It surprises me that Left Arm fast/seam bowlers are very under-represented. I'd guess only Akram would make a top 20 of all time list out of those guys.
There are some good but not great middling bowlers on that list. Although lots of cricket bowling lists are getting like that tbh due to the shear number of tests played in modern cricket (surprising given how much we moan about lack of tests).
Wasim is a dead set all time great but the others are all pretty good. I hear Sobers could bat a bit too.
My point being. If you did a top 20 of all time batsmen list left-handers would be well over-represented.
My point being. If you did a top 20 of all time bowlers list left-handers would be well under-represented.
That list above included only 1 all time great bowler (Wasim). The rest of them, by all-times standards are fairly mediocre. This surprised me, that there are so few prolific left arm fast bowlers in cricket history.
Full list:
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@rapido said in Black Caps vs Windies Test Series:
@mn5 said in Black Caps vs Windies Test Series:
@rapido said in Black Caps vs Windies Test Series:
@mn5 said in Black Caps vs Windies Test Series:
Some impressive names on that list.....
Not really. It surprises me that Left Arm fast/seam bowlers are very under-represented. I'd guess only Akram would make a top 20 of all time list out of those guys.
There are some good but not great middling bowlers on that list. Although lots of cricket bowling lists are getting like that tbh due to the shear number of tests played in modern cricket (surprising given how much we moan about lack of tests).
Wasim is a dead set all time great but the others are all pretty good. I hear Sobers could bat a bit too.
My point being. If you did a top 20 of all time batsmen list left-handers would be well over-represented.
My point being. If you did a top 20 of all time bowlers list left-handers would be well under-represented.
That list above included only 1 all time great bowler (Wasim). The rest of them, by all-times standards are fairly mediocre. This surprised me, that there are so few prolific left arm fast bowlers in cricket history.
Full list:
I guess the LBW law hurts left-arm pace bowlers in that regard, while helping left hand batsmen. Wasim and Boult negate it by being able to swing the ball in to right handers. But if your not swinging the ball it makes it difficult to get many batsmen trapped in front.
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