2020 All Blacks Squad
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@Higgins said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
The Junior All Blacks were originally an Under 23 Team and famously beat the real All Blacks 14 - 10 at Carisbrook in 1973 under the captaincy of Bruce Gemmell.
Yeah I remember some consternation when they originally announced the name. I always preferred Shadow All Blacks personally.
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@Cyclops said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
@Higgins said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
The Junior All Blacks were originally an Under 23 Team and famously beat the real All Blacks 14 - 10 at Carisbrook in 1973 under the captaincy of Bruce Gemmell.
Yeah I remember some consternation when they originally announced the name. I always preferred Shadow All Blacks personally.
Much better name
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Potential NZ "B" squad for 2020 (uncapped players only ?) :
Props : Ross, O'Neill, Fidow, Tuilamo (he was injured this year but his size could guarantee a seat there)
Hookers : Taukeiaho, Makalio
Locks : IWL, Franklin, Scrafton, Whetton
Loose forwards : Robinson, Sotutu, Gibson, Douglas, Havili, TBN
Scrumhalves : Fakatava, Judd (leaving ?)
1st Fives : Perofeta, Trask, McClutchie
2nd Fives : Nankivell, Faiane, Walden
Centres : Tupaea, Thompson
Wings : Alaimalo, L. Fainganuuku, Rayasi, Lam (Nareki and Clarke with the 7s)
Full backs : ?????????? (Stevenson, Narawa, McKay, Trainor : no great option there) -
@cgrant said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
Potential NZ "B" squad for 2020 (uncapped players only ?) :
Props : Ross, O'Neill, Fidow, Tuilamo (he was injured this year but his size could guarantee a seat there)
Hookers : Taukeiaho, Makalio
Locks : IWL, Franklin, Scrafton, Whetton
Loose forwards : Robinson, Sotutu, Gibson, Douglas, Havili, TBN
Scrumhalves : Fakatava, Judd (leaving ?)
1st Fives : Perofeta, Trask, McClutchie
2nd Fives : Nankivell, Faiane, Walden
Centres : Tupaea, Thompson
Wings : Alaimalo, L. Fainganuuku, Rayasi, Lam (Nareki and Clarke with the 7s)
Full backs : ?????????? (Stevenson, Narawa, McKay, Trainor : no great option there)Rayasi also with the 7s in 20/20
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@Canes4life said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
@Chris Wes Goosen.
A Real option I like his work rate and finishing ability
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@cgrant said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
Potential NZ "B" squad for 2020 (uncapped players only ?) :
Props : Ross, O'Neill, Fidow, Tuilamo (he was injured this year but his size could guarantee a seat there)
Hookers : Taukeiaho, Makalio
Locks : IWL, Franklin, Scrafton, Whetton
Loose forwards : Robinson, Sotutu, Gibson, Douglas, Havili, TBN
Scrumhalves : Fakatava, Judd (leaving ?)
1st Fives : Perofeta, Trask, McClutchie
2nd Fives : Nankivell, Faiane, Walden
Centres : Tupaea, Thompson
Wings : Alaimalo, L. Fainganuuku, Rayasi, Lam (Nareki and Clarke with the 7s)
Full backs : ?????????? (Stevenson, Narawa, McKay, Trainor : no great option there)Will Jordan for fullback (or wing). Bryn Hall at halfback. Ethan Blackadder in the loose forwards.
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@canefan said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
I hope that someone can get a tune out of the Ioane brothers. We could do with them playing at full potential. Imagine a back row of Cane, Ardie and peak Akira
I’d back Jamie Joseph as AB forwards coach to do that for Akira, at least he won’t thrown him under the bus like Hansen did in that press conference.
Had an obvious impact on his NPC. Players are not robots, and some need to be handled differently to get the best out of them.
A little bit of the faith they showed in unproven players like Jacobson, Fifita and Frizzell could have had him humming for the World Cup and filled the six shaped hole in the squad.
They managed him poorly.
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@Kirwan said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
@canefan said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
I hope that someone can get a tune out of the Ioane brothers. We could do with them playing at full potential. Imagine a back row of Cane, Ardie and peak Akira
I’d back Jamie Joseph as AB forwards coach to do that for Akira, at least he won’t thrown him under the bus like Hansen did in that press conference.
Had an obvious impact on his NPC. Players are not robots, and some need to be handled differently to get the best out of them.
A little bit of the faith they showed in unproven players like Jacobson, Fifita and Frizzell could have had him humming for the World Cup and filled the six shaped hole in the squad.
They managed him poorly.
Nah they tried the softly softly previously when he was in the squad, and didn't work. So they tried the harsh words. Also didn't work
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@Machpants said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
@Kirwan said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
@canefan said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
I hope that someone can get a tune out of the Ioane brothers. We could do with them playing at full potential. Imagine a back row of Cane, Ardie and peak Akira
I’d back Jamie Joseph as AB forwards coach to do that for Akira, at least he won’t thrown him under the bus like Hansen did in that press conference.
Had an obvious impact on his NPC. Players are not robots, and some need to be handled differently to get the best out of them.
A little bit of the faith they showed in unproven players like Jacobson, Fifita and Frizzell could have had him humming for the World Cup and filled the six shaped hole in the squad.
They managed him poorly.
Nah they tried the softly softly previously when he was in the squad, and didn't work. So they tried the harsh words. Also didn't work
No they didn't, they tried an approach that screamed we don't trust you. He should have been tried in one of the tier2 games, like everybody else, so he could prove himself.
How they managed him singled him out from everybody else, and with the mismanagement from the Blues overdoing his workload, we ended up where we are now.
It amuses me how he gets stuck with the lazy tag when coach after coach plays him in every single game, for the full 80, and for the Blues he's the last line of defence on our goal line, often getting try saving turnovers deep into game (he gets a lot of practice at the Blues for that). He puts in a huge workload, often to the detriment to his chances at higher honors.
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@canefan said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
I hope that someone can get a tune out of the Ioane brothers. We could do with them playing at full potential. Imagine a back row of Cane, Ardie and peak Akira
One of the interview questions for the prospective All Black coaches should be "How are you going to help develop Akira Ioane into the world-class player we all know he could be?"
