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    Potential NZ "B" squad for 2020 (uncapped players only ?) :

    Props : Ross, O'Neill, Fidow, Tuilamo (he was injured this year but his size could guarantee a seat there)
    Hookers : Taukeiaho, Makalio
    Locks : IWL, Franklin, Scrafton, Whetton
    Loose forwards : Robinson, Sotutu, Gibson, Douglas, Havili, TBN
    Scrumhalves : Fakatava, Judd (leaving ?)
    1st Fives : Perofeta, Trask, McClutchie
    2nd Fives : Nankivell, Faiane, Walden
    Centres : Tupaea, Thompson
    Wings : Alaimalo, L. Fainganuuku, Rayasi, Lam (Nareki and Clarke with the 7s)
    Full backs : ?????????? (Stevenson, Narawa, McKay, Trainor : no great option there)

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    @Cyclops they could wear grey...

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    @cgrant said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

    Potential NZ "B" squad for 2020 (uncapped players only ?) :

    Props : Ross, O'Neill, Fidow, Tuilamo (he was injured this year but his size could guarantee a seat there)
    Hookers : Taukeiaho, Makalio
    Locks : IWL, Franklin, Scrafton, Whetton
    Loose forwards : Robinson, Sotutu, Gibson, Douglas, Havili, TBN
    Scrumhalves : Fakatava, Judd (leaving ?)
    1st Fives : Perofeta, Trask, McClutchie
    2nd Fives : Nankivell, Faiane, Walden
    Centres : Tupaea, Thompson
    Wings : Alaimalo, L. Fainganuuku, Rayasi, Lam (Nareki and Clarke with the 7s)
    Full backs : ?????????? (Stevenson, Narawa, McKay, Trainor : no great option there)

    Rayasi also with the 7s in 20/20

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    OK, thanks.
    And what about McNicol ? I hope his injury woes are over.

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    @Chris Wes Goosen.

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    @Canes4life said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

    @Chris Wes Goosen.

    A Real option I like his work rate and finishing ability

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    I hope that someone can get a tune out of the Ioane brothers. We could do with them playing at full potential. Imagine a back row of Cane, Ardie and peak Akira

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    @cgrant said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

    Potential NZ "B" squad for 2020 (uncapped players only ?) :

    Props : Ross, O'Neill, Fidow, Tuilamo (he was injured this year but his size could guarantee a seat there)
    Hookers : Taukeiaho, Makalio
    Locks : IWL, Franklin, Scrafton, Whetton
    Loose forwards : Robinson, Sotutu, Gibson, Douglas, Havili, TBN
    Scrumhalves : Fakatava, Judd (leaving ?)
    1st Fives : Perofeta, Trask, McClutchie
    2nd Fives : Nankivell, Faiane, Walden
    Centres : Tupaea, Thompson
    Wings : Alaimalo, L. Fainganuuku, Rayasi, Lam (Nareki and Clarke with the 7s)
    Full backs : ?????????? (Stevenson, Narawa, McKay, Trainor : no great option there)

    Will Jordan for fullback (or wing). Bryn Hall at halfback. Ethan Blackadder in the loose forwards.

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    @canefan said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

    I hope that someone can get a tune out of the Ioane brothers. We could do with them playing at full potential. Imagine a back row of Cane, Ardie and peak Akira

    I’d back Jamie Joseph as AB forwards coach to do that for Akira, at least he won’t thrown him under the bus like Hansen did in that press conference.

    Had an obvious impact on his NPC. Players are not robots, and some need to be handled differently to get the best out of them.

    A little bit of the faith they showed in unproven players like Jacobson, Fifita and Frizzell could have had him humming for the World Cup and filled the six shaped hole in the squad.

    They managed him poorly.

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    @Kirwan said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

    @canefan said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

    I hope that someone can get a tune out of the Ioane brothers. We could do with them playing at full potential. Imagine a back row of Cane, Ardie and peak Akira

    I’d back Jamie Joseph as AB forwards coach to do that for Akira, at least he won’t thrown him under the bus like Hansen did in that press conference.

    Had an obvious impact on his NPC. Players are not robots, and some need to be handled differently to get the best out of them.

    A little bit of the faith they showed in unproven players like Jacobson, Fifita and Frizzell could have had him humming for the World Cup and filled the six shaped hole in the squad.

    They managed him poorly.

    Nah they tried the softly softly previously when he was in the squad, and didn't work. So they tried the harsh words. Also didn't work

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    Get Akira sorted and Rieko will emerge from his shell.

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    @canefan said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

    @Kirwan Or NZ B? There should be only one ABs team

    Te Waka a Maui?

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    @sparky I 100% test the youngsters at some sort of international level

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    @Machpants said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

    @Kirwan said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

    @canefan said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

    I hope that someone can get a tune out of the Ioane brothers. We could do with them playing at full potential. Imagine a back row of Cane, Ardie and peak Akira

    I’d back Jamie Joseph as AB forwards coach to do that for Akira, at least he won’t thrown him under the bus like Hansen did in that press conference.

    Had an obvious impact on his NPC. Players are not robots, and some need to be handled differently to get the best out of them.

    A little bit of the faith they showed in unproven players like Jacobson, Fifita and Frizzell could have had him humming for the World Cup and filled the six shaped hole in the squad.

    They managed him poorly.

    Nah they tried the softly softly previously when he was in the squad, and didn't work. So they tried the harsh words. Also didn't work

    No they didn't, they tried an approach that screamed we don't trust you. He should have been tried in one of the tier2 games, like everybody else, so he could prove himself.

    How they managed him singled him out from everybody else, and with the mismanagement from the Blues overdoing his workload, we ended up where we are now.

    It amuses me how he gets stuck with the lazy tag when coach after coach plays him in every single game, for the full 80, and for the Blues he's the last line of defence on our goal line, often getting try saving turnovers deep into game (he gets a lot of practice at the Blues for that). He puts in a huge workload, often to the detriment to his chances at higher honors.

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    @canefan said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

    I hope that someone can get a tune out of the Ioane brothers. We could do with them playing at full potential. Imagine a back row of Cane, Ardie and peak Akira

    One of the interview questions for the prospective All Black coaches should be "How are you going to help develop Akira Ioane into the world-class player we all know he could be?"

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    @Kirwan said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

    He should have been tried in one of the tier2 games

    He should have had Evan's spot on the EOYT last year ... and think of how hard that is for me to say as a Magpies fan.

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    @Cyclops said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

    @cgrant said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

    Potential NZ "B" squad for 2020 (uncapped players only ?) :

    Props : Ross, O'Neill, Fidow, Tuilamo (he was injured this year but his size could guarantee a seat there)
    Hookers : Taukeiaho, Makalio
    Locks : IWL, Franklin, Scrafton, Whetton
    Loose forwards : Robinson, Sotutu, Gibson, Douglas, Havili, TBN
    Scrumhalves : Fakatava, Judd (leaving ?)
    1st Fives : Perofeta, Trask, McClutchie
    2nd Fives : Nankivell, Faiane, Walden
    Centres : Tupaea, Thompson
    Wings : Alaimalo, L. Fainganuuku, Rayasi, Lam (Nareki and Clarke with the 7s)
    Full backs : ?????????? (Stevenson, Narawa, McKay, Trainor : no great option there)

    Will Jordan for fullback (or wing). Bryn Hall at halfback. Ethan Blackadder in the loose forwards.

    Thanks ! I forgot Hall and Blackadder. Will Jordan should be in the AB squad.

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    @sparky said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

    @canefan said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

    I hope that someone can get a tune out of the Ioane brothers. We could do with them playing at full potential. Imagine a back row of Cane, Ardie and peak Akira

    One of the interview questions for the prospective All Black coaches should be "How are you going to help develop Akira Ioane into the world-class player we all know he could be?"

    Nope.

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    @sparky said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

    @canefan said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

    I hope that someone can get a tune out of the Ioane brothers. We could do with them playing at full potential. Imagine a back row of Cane, Ardie and peak Akira

    One of the interview questions for the prospective All Black coaches should be "How are you going to help develop Akira Ioane into the world-class player we all know he could be?"

    How about asking Akira that question himself?

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    Possible All Blacks 23 for 2020:

    1. Joe Moody (Superb this year)
    2. Liam Coltman (Needs to improve throw, but better all round game than Codie Taylor now)
    3. Nepo Laulala (Excellent this year)
    4. Pari Pari Parkinson (Raw Talent) or Sam Whitelock (once rested)
    5. Scott Barrett ( Best NZ Lock at RWC
    6. Luke Jacobson (So much potential)
    7. Sam Cane (First name on the team sheet)
    8. Ardie Savea ( Best AB in 2018 and 2019) or Akira Ioane (if he can deliver on his potential)
    9. Aaron Smith (Best pass in the game)
    10. Beauden Barrett (Needs to play in best position)
    11. Will Jordan ( Going to be a superstar) or Reiko Ioane (If can recapture his form)
    12. ALB (Played well throughout 2019)
    13. Jack Goodhue (If he can stay injury free)
    14. Sevu Reece (Had a superb 2019)
    15. Damian McKenzie (Wheels from the back)
    16. Dane Coles (Still much to offer)
    17. Atu Moli (So much potential)
    18. Ofa Tu'ungafasi
    19. Patrick Tuitupolou
    20. Dalton Papali'i (Another one with big potential)
    21. TJP or Folau Fakatava (Looks an outstanding prospect)
    22. Richie Mo'unga or Josh Ioane (Both deserve game time)
    23. Ngani Laumape (power off the bench)
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