Jacko

[nzzp]

@Virgil said in Jacko:

Think it comes down to perception
A rock star ‘entertains’ a willing young teenager who’s infatuated with him vs a man who who invites young boys into his life and takes them into his bed. He does that via manipulation and grooming them
The average person might think those girls were either asking for it or happy to go along with it compared to someone who comes across as more as a predator.
Both instances are wrong of course, no doubt over the years there’s been plenty of young girls used and spat out when these guys have finished with them.

SO, drug use is OK? I mean, now we're judging some crimes as worthy of being banned, while letting others slide? I dunno, as I said, it's a slippery slope.

How about all the wannabe gangsters (or the actual gangsters). Guns, crime, robbery ... let alone what the farking labels get up to with their evil contracts.

Jacko's interesting too. He's someone that you can point to the crazy upbringing and say it probably had a substantial effect on who he was. I was going to say 'as a person', but he was more alien than human at times.

Finally, what happens to legacy if the offending takes place after the creative endeavour? Someone derails after getting success due to being a musical genius ... is the music 'ok' or 'not ok as you turned into someone we don't like'.

My thoughts are all over the place, but I reckon it's pretty farked

[jegga]

@nzzp said in Jacko:

@Virgil said in Jacko:

Think it comes down to perception
A rock star ‘entertains’ a willing young teenager who’s infatuated with him vs a man who who invites young boys into his life and takes them into his bed. He does that via manipulation and grooming them
The average person might think those girls were either asking for it or happy to go along with it compared to someone who comes across as more as a predator.
Both instances are wrong of course, no doubt over the years there’s been plenty of young girls used and spat out when these guys have finished with them.

SO, drug use is OK? I mean, now we're judging some crimes as worthy of being banned, while letting others slide? I dunno, as I said, it's a slippery slope.

How about all the wannabe gangsters (or the actual gangsters). Guns, crime, robbery ... let alone what the farking labels get up to with their evil contracts.

Jacko's interesting too. He's someone that you can point to the crazy upbringing and say it probably had a substantial effect on who he was. I was going to say 'as a person', but he was more alien than human at times.

Finally, what happens to legacy if the offending takes place after the creative endeavour? Someone derails after getting success due to being a musical genius ... is the music 'ok' or 'not ok as you turned into someone we don't like'.

My thoughts are all over the place, but I reckon it's pretty farked

Look whatever moral high ground I need to take to get savage garden off the air waves ( and my mrs car stereo ) I’m in .

Also Celine Dion .

And Adele .

[JC]

@jegga said in Jacko:

@nzzp said in Jacko:

@Virgil said in Jacko:

Think it comes down to perception
A rock star ‘entertains’ a willing young teenager who’s infatuated with him vs a man who who invites young boys into his life and takes them into his bed. He does that via manipulation and grooming them
The average person might think those girls were either asking for it or happy to go along with it compared to someone who comes across as more as a predator.
Both instances are wrong of course, no doubt over the years there’s been plenty of young girls used and spat out when these guys have finished with them.

SO, drug use is OK? I mean, now we're judging some crimes as worthy of being banned, while letting others slide? I dunno, as I said, it's a slippery slope.

How about all the wannabe gangsters (or the actual gangsters). Guns, crime, robbery ... let alone what the farking labels get up to with their evil contracts.

Jacko's interesting too. He's someone that you can point to the crazy upbringing and say it probably had a substantial effect on who he was. I was going to say 'as a person', but he was more alien than human at times.

Finally, what happens to legacy if the offending takes place after the creative endeavour? Someone derails after getting success due to being a musical genius ... is the music 'ok' or 'not ok as you turned into someone we don't like'.

My thoughts are all over the place, but I reckon it's pretty farked

Look whatever moral high ground I need to take to get savage garden off the air waves ( and my mrs car stereo ) I’m in .

Also Celine Dion .

And Adele .

Stop there mate. You know Adele would buy her round, she's a top bloke.

[mariner4life]

@JC said in Jacko:

@jegga said in Jacko:

@nzzp said in Jacko:

@Virgil said in Jacko:

Think it comes down to perception
A rock star ‘entertains’ a willing young teenager who’s infatuated with him vs a man who who invites young boys into his life and takes them into his bed. He does that via manipulation and grooming them
The average person might think those girls were either asking for it or happy to go along with it compared to someone who comes across as more as a predator.
Both instances are wrong of course, no doubt over the years there’s been plenty of young girls used and spat out when these guys have finished with them.

SO, drug use is OK? I mean, now we're judging some crimes as worthy of being banned, while letting others slide? I dunno, as I said, it's a slippery slope.

How about all the wannabe gangsters (or the actual gangsters). Guns, crime, robbery ... let alone what the farking labels get up to with their evil contracts.

Jacko's interesting too. He's someone that you can point to the crazy upbringing and say it probably had a substantial effect on who he was. I was going to say 'as a person', but he was more alien than human at times.

Finally, what happens to legacy if the offending takes place after the creative endeavour? Someone derails after getting success due to being a musical genius ... is the music 'ok' or 'not ok as you turned into someone we don't like'.

My thoughts are all over the place, but I reckon it's pretty farked

Look whatever moral high ground I need to take to get savage garden off the air waves ( and my mrs car stereo ) I’m in .

Also Celine Dion .

And Adele .

Stop there mate. You know Adele would buy her round, she's a top bloke.

JC is a sad housewife. What's my prize?

[Paekakboyz]

@mariner4life going to bed frustrated.

[mariner4life]

@Paekakboyz said in Jacko:

@mariner4life going to bed frustrated.

pffft, everyday is prize day apparently

[Paekakboyz]

@mariner4life don't worry bro, plenty of room for first place on the podium!!

[mariner4life]

@Paekakboyz said in Jacko:

@mariner4life don't worry bro, plenty of room for first place on the podium!!

I'm a sexual athlete, i always finish first

[Nepia]

@jegga said in Jacko:

@nzzp said in Jacko:

@Virgil said in Jacko:

Think it comes down to perception
A rock star ‘entertains’ a willing young teenager who’s infatuated with him vs a man who who invites young boys into his life and takes them into his bed. He does that via manipulation and grooming them
The average person might think those girls were either asking for it or happy to go along with it compared to someone who comes across as more as a predator.
Both instances are wrong of course, no doubt over the years there’s been plenty of young girls used and spat out when these guys have finished with them.

SO, drug use is OK? I mean, now we're judging some crimes as worthy of being banned, while letting others slide? I dunno, as I said, it's a slippery slope.

How about all the wannabe gangsters (or the actual gangsters). Guns, crime, robbery ... let alone what the farking labels get up to with their evil contracts.

Jacko's interesting too. He's someone that you can point to the crazy upbringing and say it probably had a substantial effect on who he was. I was going to say 'as a person', but he was more alien than human at times.

Finally, what happens to legacy if the offending takes place after the creative endeavour? Someone derails after getting success due to being a musical genius ... is the music 'ok' or 'not ok as you turned into someone we don't like'.

My thoughts are all over the place, but I reckon it's pretty farked

Look whatever moral high ground I need to take to get savage garden off the air waves ( and my mrs car stereo ) I’m in .

Also Celine Dion .

And Adele .

What radio are you listening to? Spotify man!

[jegga]

@Nepia said in Jacko:

@jegga said in Jacko:

@nzzp said in Jacko:

@Virgil said in Jacko:

Think it comes down to perception
A rock star ‘entertains’ a willing young teenager who’s infatuated with him vs a man who who invites young boys into his life and takes them into his bed. He does that via manipulation and grooming them
The average person might think those girls were either asking for it or happy to go along with it compared to someone who comes across as more as a predator.
Both instances are wrong of course, no doubt over the years there’s been plenty of young girls used and spat out when these guys have finished with them.

SO, drug use is OK? I mean, now we're judging some crimes as worthy of being banned, while letting others slide? I dunno, as I said, it's a slippery slope.

How about all the wannabe gangsters (or the actual gangsters). Guns, crime, robbery ... let alone what the farking labels get up to with their evil contracts.

Jacko's interesting too. He's someone that you can point to the crazy upbringing and say it probably had a substantial effect on who he was. I was going to say 'as a person', but he was more alien than human at times.

Finally, what happens to legacy if the offending takes place after the creative endeavour? Someone derails after getting success due to being a musical genius ... is the music 'ok' or 'not ok as you turned into someone we don't like'.

My thoughts are all over the place, but I reckon it's pretty farked

Look whatever moral high ground I need to take to get savage garden off the air waves ( and my mrs car stereo ) I’m in .

Also Celine Dion .

And Adele .

What radio are you listening to? Spotify man!

It’s my mrs Spotify

[mariner4life]

@jegga said in Jacko:

@Nepia said in Jacko:

@jegga said in Jacko:

@nzzp said in Jacko:

@Virgil said in Jacko:

Think it comes down to perception
A rock star ‘entertains’ a willing young teenager who’s infatuated with him vs a man who who invites young boys into his life and takes them into his bed. He does that via manipulation and grooming them
The average person might think those girls were either asking for it or happy to go along with it compared to someone who comes across as more as a predator.
Both instances are wrong of course, no doubt over the years there’s been plenty of young girls used and spat out when these guys have finished with them.

SO, drug use is OK? I mean, now we're judging some crimes as worthy of being banned, while letting others slide? I dunno, as I said, it's a slippery slope.

How about all the wannabe gangsters (or the actual gangsters). Guns, crime, robbery ... let alone what the farking labels get up to with their evil contracts.

Jacko's interesting too. He's someone that you can point to the crazy upbringing and say it probably had a substantial effect on who he was. I was going to say 'as a person', but he was more alien than human at times.

Finally, what happens to legacy if the offending takes place after the creative endeavour? Someone derails after getting success due to being a musical genius ... is the music 'ok' or 'not ok as you turned into someone we don't like'.

My thoughts are all over the place, but I reckon it's pretty farked

Look whatever moral high ground I need to take to get savage garden off the air waves ( and my mrs car stereo ) I’m in .

Also Celine Dion .

And Adele .

What radio are you listening to? Spotify man!

It’s my mrs Spotify

[dK]

My 7 year old daughter absolutely loves Whacko Jacko's music, but knows nothing about his sordid past, so question to the fern, When do I ruin her childhood?

[Tim]

@dK Pass!

[dK]

@Tim said in Jacko:

@dK Pass!

My current strategy as well

[jegga]

@dK said in Jacko:

My 7 year old daughter absolutely loves Whacko Jacko's music, but knows nothing about his sordid past, so question to the fern, When do I ruin her childhood?

Tell him he killed the Easter bunny and father Xmas, tear off all those band aids at one time

[booboo]

@nzzp said in Jacko:

@Virgil said in Jacko:

Think it comes down to perception
A rock star ‘entertains’ a willing young teenager who’s infatuated with him vs a man who who invites young boys into his life and takes them into his bed. He does that via manipulation and grooming them
The average person might think those girls were either asking for it or happy to go along with it compared to someone who comes across as more as a predator.
Both instances are wrong of course, no doubt over the years there’s been plenty of young girls used and spat out when these guys have finished with them.

SO, drug use is OK? I mean, now we're judging some crimes as worthy of being banned, while letting others slide? I dunno, as I said, it's a slippery slope.

Well, society and the law does rate different crimes at different levels of seriousness.

[Rancid Schnitzel]

If we were to see a ban of MJ's music would that also include Jackson 5 stuff? Not like he was fiddling with kids at that age.

[mariner4life]

@dK said in Jacko:

My 7 year old daughter absolutely loves Whacko Jacko's music, but knows nothing about his sordid past, so question to the fern, When do I ruin her childhood?

chances are you already have

[JC]

@mariner4life said in Jacko:

@JC said in Jacko:

@jegga said in Jacko:

@nzzp said in Jacko:

@Virgil said in Jacko:

Think it comes down to perception
A rock star ‘entertains’ a willing young teenager who’s infatuated with him vs a man who who invites young boys into his life and takes them into his bed. He does that via manipulation and grooming them
The average person might think those girls were either asking for it or happy to go along with it compared to someone who comes across as more as a predator.
Both instances are wrong of course, no doubt over the years there’s been plenty of young girls used and spat out when these guys have finished with them.

SO, drug use is OK? I mean, now we're judging some crimes as worthy of being banned, while letting others slide? I dunno, as I said, it's a slippery slope.

How about all the wannabe gangsters (or the actual gangsters). Guns, crime, robbery ... let alone what the farking labels get up to with their evil contracts.

Jacko's interesting too. He's someone that you can point to the crazy upbringing and say it probably had a substantial effect on who he was. I was going to say 'as a person', but he was more alien than human at times.

Finally, what happens to legacy if the offending takes place after the creative endeavour? Someone derails after getting success due to being a musical genius ... is the music 'ok' or 'not ok as you turned into someone we don't like'.

My thoughts are all over the place, but I reckon it's pretty farked

Look whatever moral high ground I need to take to get savage garden off the air waves ( and my mrs car stereo ) I’m in .

Also Celine Dion .

And Adele .

Stop there mate. You know Adele would buy her round, she's a top bloke.

JC is a sad housewife. What's my prize?

Jealous much?

[dK]

@mariner4life said in Jacko:

@dK said in Jacko:

My 7 year old daughter absolutely loves Whacko Jacko's music, but knows nothing about his sordid past, so question to the fern, When do I ruin her childhood?

chances are you already have

One day at a time, I will slowly break her down, to allow a full blown explosion when she reaches her teens