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    @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

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    Noguera Paz is out of favour atm

    AFAIK he was 3rd choice LH prop at Bath Rugby last year behind Obano + Van Rooyun

    Not played for Pumas since Nov 2017

    You might find this interesting: http://www.americasrugbynews.com/2018/09/19/argentinas-ongoing-search-for-loose-head-prop/

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    Watched on run (lots of fast forward).

    Fairly disorganised AB display.

    Thought Ritchie M and Crusaders handled rush defence much better than BB/NL. Don't think Ngani adds much as a second pair of eyes to Beaudy.

    Loved BBBR at the end laying down the law and shoving AB pups into place.

    Expect six changes in AB pack for Boks.

    Assuming RC is injured I'd LIKE to see ALB at 12.

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    @pakman said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

    @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

    @pakman

    Noguera Paz is out of favour atm

    AFAIK he was 3rd choice LH prop at Bath Rugby last year behind Obano + Van Rooyun

    Not played for Pumas since Nov 2017

    You might find this interesting: http://www.americasrugbynews.com/2018/09/19/argentinas-ongoing-search-for-loose-head-prop/

    Good article 👍🏻

    Paul Tait is a good resource for all things Lo Pumas

    The constant shuffling of Tetaz Chappero & Noguero Paz from LH to TH prop has been awful

    Hopefully with emergence of Mayco Vivas he might be the long term solution Just turned 21 and completed his 1st season of Super Rugby

    Medrano as well is only 23 so they're very young for props Might take until 2023 for them to mature and wise up to prop position

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    Assuming Squire is not available for the next couple of weeks, do they try out someone like Papalii or go with the safer option of Frizell/Barrett? They already know what Frizell and Barrett can do, I think it would be a good opportunity to give Paps a go and see if he has what it takes at six.

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    @gt12 Great write-up; also agree with @booboo 's comment. Just one comment from me about the stats used. I have compared the stats provided by Rugbypass, ESPN, SANZAAR and NZH (these come from OPTA), and Rugbypass is the clear outlier. I don't recommend using them. Overall, the SANZAAR stats and NZH/OPTA stats generally correspond with each other, and - with a few exceptions - ESPN, too. So I'd recommend the SANZAAR stats, because they're the most easily accessible.

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    After reading the thread, I’m warming to the thought of giving ardie, Sam and read a go, and I’m not bothered by who wears what numbers,

    Without that specialist dominant incumbent 6 we have become accustomed to, think there is a good argument for just getting your best players out on the park

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    @Stargazer

    Yep, for sure I'll avoid the rugbypass stats in my future re-watch posts - sadly, the UI is really nice on rugbypass, just the quality of the stats is poor.

    I'll take recommendations of players to watch too for future re-watch posts btw - this week I wasn't sure whether to focus on Jordie or Fifita, but I figured 6 is a bit more important than 11, given that it should have R. Ioane in it, unless all sorts of shit happens.

    I was also tempted to talk about Coltman, but since the story was pretty easy (great around the field, still can't f%&king throw) I avoided it.

    Patty T was another I should have watched for - I thought he was significantly better than Fifita, but that's a low bar - and he was replaced by Hemopo, indicating that they are still considering the two specialists, and a one or two in-betweeners breakdown. Honestly, apart from one good dominant tackle, I don't think that Pat T did himself any favors either - about 3 tackles with one miss in 57 minutes versus Hemopo's 3 and no misses in 23.

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    Playing Fifita was a waste of 60 minutes that could have been used to assess someone else. I can’t believe so close to a RWC that the selectors are still giving out trial games. We have SA, Australia and Tonga then it’s RWC. Not to mention the midfield.

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    @Billy-Tell My guess is Scott Barrett when fit will be the first-choice blindside. Fifita and Hemopo are in competition for the bench lock/blindside role.

    Read, Cane and Savea are certain to go to Japan. One or two of Jacobson or Papali'i or Frizzell or Todd will join them.

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    It was a cardable offense, right in front of the ref. But it was also a foolish high-risk (potentially hospital) pass. I hate it when we shovel a pass along to a player in a worse position rather than take contact or take other options that don’t risk the player receiving the pass

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    Also re rugbypass. Their journalists aren't tho most clued in (though NZH and stuff aren't too much better). They posted an article about BBBR and there was some wrong stuff in there and and I pointed it out, it was something about how it was his 100th game for the Chiefs when it wasn't because they though he played against the BIL for the Chiefs. The reply from them was pissed off and I said check the team list. They then deleted the article and edited it 😂. Also I find they're clickbaity as all fuck.

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    This one is pretty good tho

    Analysis: The All Blacks' 11th hour innovation to kill off Northern Hemisphere line speed

    Analysis: The All Blacks' 11th hour innovation to kill off Northern Hemisphere line speed

    Fast forward to the first All Blacks test of 2019 and it seems as if lessons from that night are shaping some new ideas on the eve of the World Cup.

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    @Machpants said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

    This one is pretty good tho

    Analysis: The All Blacks' 11th hour innovation to kill off Northern Hemisphere line speed

    Analysis: The All Blacks' 11th hour innovation to kill off Northern Hemisphere line speed

    Fast forward to the first All Blacks test of 2019 and it seems as if lessons from that night are shaping some new ideas on the eve of the World Cup.

    Good article.

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    @Machpants great article, a good rebuff to those asking for Smith to be replaced.

    Also made me think...is part of the reason the ABs turn the ball over so frequently (aimless kicking) down to not wanting to show too much of the game plan?

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    @Bones yeah made me re-think. TJP is the better player in every other aspect but Smith's pass may just be key to unlocking the rush defense.

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    @Bones I wouldn't put anything past Shag. His strategy in the group phase last time was the stroke of pure genius that saw us peak at the right time to take out France, SA and aussie in successive weeks

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    Utter farce that cheeky got world coach that year, the RWC pool match tactics were genius by the abs

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