Next AB captain?
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@Rembrandt Yeah, Read is definitely gone.
I guess we don't know who the next coach is, so the captain could be anyone - but, you'd think Sam Whitelock would have the inside running, with Sam Cane in the next lane...
Interesting thing, for me, is despite the prognostications of doom of @banned4lifejaguare - I think there's only four guys in the RWC squad that are confirmed not to be around next season - Read, Todd, Crotty and Ben Smith - and maybe only SBW additionally who's not signed in NZ.
Suggests that there's been a bit of a look to the future with a few selections.
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Whitelock and Cane would have to be the next two inline.
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Ardie Savea a man of great stature.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Next AB captain?:
Ardie Savea a man of great stature.
er, he gets high on life?
Edit: and would lead us to heights we previously didn't believe we could achieve
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expect Goodhue will feature in the conversation, although as a back, likely VC.
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A lot of people saying definitely Whitelock but I think Sam Cane is in with a decent shout
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@DrivingMaul said in Next AB captain?:
A lot of people saying definitely Whitelock but I think Sam Cane is in with a decent shout
Whitelock is 30, Cane 27. Will be interesting to see if Whitelock wants to stick around for another WC cycle, Cane is certainly young enough but will he want to with the injuries he's had
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@Rembrandt said in Next AB captain?:
@DrivingMaul said in Next AB captain?:
A lot of people saying definitely Whitelock but I think Sam Cane is in with a decent shout
Whitelock is 30, Cane 27. Will be interesting to see if Whitelock wants to stick around for another WC cycle, Cane is certainly young enough but will he want to with the injuries he's had
Whitelock S is signed through to 2023 I think. Competing in 4 RWC if things go well; at least 2 (and counting) winners medals.
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@Stargazer who was the last back we had as captain (regular, not one offs)
Was it Kirk?
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There has only been 3 regular captains (Umaga, McCaw, Read) in the last 16 years so whoever it is needs to be in a position that plays the full 80 mins, and preferably is close to the action. That rules out hookers, props and halfbacks and outside backs. I like @rotated's idea of using Whitelock for 2 years and then transitioning to Cane. No one else really stands out.
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@Rembrandt said in Next AB captain?:
Cane is certainly young enough but will he want to with the injuries he's had
He's from Reporoa, a broken neck - tis but a scratch".
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@nzzp said in Next AB captain?:
Captains with more than 10 tests
Whineray
Lochore
Leslie
Mourie
Dalton
Kirk
Shelford
Whetton
Fitzpatrick
Randell
Blackadder
Oliver (A)
Thorne
Umaga
McCaw
ReadEdit: Bold for non-forwards
Hah...ummm...you mean backs?
Don't really see the point in Whitelock for 2, then Cane once he hits Whitelock's age.
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@Bones said in Next AB captain?:
@nzzp said in Next AB captain?:
Captains with more than 10 tests
Whineray
Lochore
Leslie
Mourie
Dalton
Kirk
Shelford
Whetton
Fitzpatrick
Randell
Blackadder
Oliver (A)
Thorne
Umaga
McCaw
ReadEdit: Bold for non-forwards
Hah...ummm...you mean backs?
Don't really see the point in Whitelock for 2, then Cane once he hits Whitelock's age.
I agree we kind of need someone to captain for the entire cycle. But I guess the way the team is run by the players' group these days, they might be able to overcome that, like an unofficial co-captain/captain in waiting.
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@nzzp said in Next AB captain?:
@Bones said in Next AB captain?:
Hah...ummm...you mean backs?
Yeah ... I was contorted because of halfbacks. Are they really backs? Really?
It's 50/50...
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@canefan said in Next AB captain?:
@Bones said in Next AB captain?:
@nzzp said in Next AB captain?:
Captains with more than 10 tests
Whineray
Lochore
Leslie
Mourie
Dalton
Kirk
Shelford
Whetton
Fitzpatrick
Randell
Blackadder
Oliver (A)
Thorne
Umaga
McCaw
ReadEdit: Bold for non-forwards
Hah...ummm...you mean backs?
Don't really see the point in Whitelock for 2, then Cane once he hits Whitelock's age.
I agree we kind of need someone to captain for the entire cycle. But I guess the way the team is run by the players' group these days, they might be able to overcome that, like an unofficial co-captain/captain in waiting.
But why?
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