RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2)
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3 wins and a "Draw" and we finish top of the pool.
The spanner in the works is that last hit out that didn't happen means (in my mind) folks like Reiko are pretty much finished for this World Cup (Unless we play Japan and he may get a hit out)
I really have no idea who they would play against Japan. Would it be strongest team for final three matches??
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@Hooroo said in RWC: QF2: All Blacks Vs "To Be Advised":
3 wins and a "Draw" and we finish top of the pool.
The spanner in the works is that last hit out that didn't happen means (in my mind) folks like Reiko are pretty much finished for this World Cup (Unless we play Japan and he may get a hit out)
I really have no idea who they would play against Japan. Would it be strongest team for final three matches??
Probably going to be Ireland we play
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They should name a team "that would have played against Italy" anyway just to get everyone speculating about what it means for next week...
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Ruined our perfect record of winning every pool game.
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@taniwharugby said in RWC: QF2: All Blacks Vs "To Be Advised":
Ruined our perfect record of winning every pool game.
Not necessarily; just change it into a "perfect record of winning every pool game played.
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@taniwharugby said in RWC: QF2: All Blacks Vs "To Be Advised":
Ruined our perfect record of winning every pool game.
We also had the record of winning 15 world cup games in succession and still going , does that end with a draw ?
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@taniwharugby They use they word "cancel" when referring to the match thus it is deemed to have never taken place. Our 100% winning record continues unabated, as does the streak of 15 wins in a row.
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Is anyone else worried about to be advised? Good coach, solid set piece, handy enough 10 and some speed out wide. Not a foregone conclusion this match.
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@taniwharugby said in RWC: QF2: All Blacks Vs "To Be Advised":
Ruined our perfect record of winning every pool game.
In pool play since 1987, the All Blacks have beaten: Italy, Fiji, Argentina, England, USA, Italy, Ireland, Wales, Japan, Tonga, England, Italy, Italy, Canada, Tonga, Wales, Italy, Portugal, Scotland, Romania, Tonga, Japan, France, Canada, Argentina, Namibia, Georgia, Tonga, South Africa, Canada and Namibia.
Damn Typhoon.
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@sparky said in RWC: QF2: All Blacks Vs "To Be Advised":
@taniwharugby said in RWC: QF2: All Blacks Vs "To Be Advised":
Ruined our perfect record of winning every pool game.
In pool play since 1987, the All Blacks have beaten: Italy, Fiji, Argentina, England, USA, Italy, Ireland, Wales, Japan, Tonga, England, Italy, Italy, Canada, Tonga, Wales, Italy, Portugal, Scotland, Romania, Tonga, Japan, France, Canada, Argentina, Namibia, Georgia, Tonga, South Africa, Canada and Namibia.
Damn Typhoon.
We’ve never had Australia in our pool. Quite interesting given that we’ve had everyone else.
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@Crucial said in RWC: QF2: All Blacks Vs "To Be Advised":
We’ve never had Australia in our pool. Quite interesting given that we’ve had everyone else.
Out of interest I checked about Australia and they have never been in the same pool as France.
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@sparky said in RWC: QF2: All Blacks Vs "To Be Advised":
@taniwharugby said in RWC: QF2: All Blacks Vs "To Be Advised":
Ruined our perfect record of winning every pool game.
In pool play since 1987, the All Blacks have beaten: Italy, Fiji, Argentina, England, USA, Italy, Ireland, Wales, Japan, Tonga, England, Italy, Italy, Canada, Tonga, Wales, Italy, Portugal, Scotland, Romania, Tonga, Japan, France, Canada, Argentina, Namibia, Georgia, Tonga, South Africa, Canada and Namibia.
Damn Typhoon.
We will still be the only unbeaten team in pool play, I think?
I can live with that.
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@Bovidae said in RWC: QF2: All Blacks Vs "To Be Advised":
@Crucial said in RWC: QF2: All Blacks Vs "To Be Advised":
We’ve never had Australia in our pool. Quite interesting given that we’ve had everyone else.
Out of interest I checked about Australia and they have never been in the same pool as France.
I used to suspect they deliberately set us up to meet the aussies in semis back in the day when they were probably our toughest opponent .
Probably not, but it did seem that way to a paranoid Allblacks supporter.
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@sparky said in RWC: QF2: All Blacks Vs "To Be Advised":
@taniwharugby said in RWC: QF2: All Blacks Vs "To Be Advised":
Ruined our perfect record of winning every pool game.
In pool play since 1987, the All Blacks have beaten: Italy, Fiji, Argentina, England, USA, Italy, Ireland, Wales, Japan, Tonga, England, Italy, Italy, Canada, Tonga, Wales, Italy, Portugal, Scotland, Romania, Tonga, Japan, France, Canada, Argentina, Namibia, Georgia, Tonga, South Africa, Canada and Namibia.
Damn Typhoon.
I think the typhoon is trying to tell WR that we’ve been landed with borefest Italy too many times already.
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@Snowy Wales
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@Yeetyaah said in RWC: QF2: All Blacks Vs "To Be Advised":
@Snowy Wales
I think he means all RWC's - not this one.
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@Nepia Ah lmao my bad
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@taniwharugby said in RWC: QF2: All Blacks Vs "To Be Advised":
Ruined our perfect record of winning every pool game.
Our second ever RWC draw ...
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@Crucial said in RWC: QF2: All Blacks Vs "To Be Advised":
@sparky said in RWC: QF2: All Blacks Vs "To Be Advised":
@taniwharugby said in RWC: QF2: All Blacks Vs "To Be Advised":
Ruined our perfect record of winning every pool game.
In pool play since 1987, the All Blacks have beaten: Italy, Fiji, Argentina, England, USA, Italy, Ireland, Wales, Japan, Tonga, England, Italy, Italy, Canada, Tonga, Wales, Italy, Portugal, Scotland, Romania, Tonga, Japan, France, Canada, Argentina, Namibia, Georgia, Tonga, South Africa, Canada and Namibia.
Damn Typhoon.
We’ve never had Australia in our pool. Quite interesting given that we’ve had everyone else.
Spain
Zimbabwe
Russia
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@booboo said in RWC: QF2: All Blacks Vs "To Be Advised":
@Crucial said in RWC: QF2: All Blacks Vs "To Be Advised":
@sparky said in RWC: QF2: All Blacks Vs "To Be Advised":
@taniwharugby said in RWC: QF2: All Blacks Vs "To Be Advised":
Ruined our perfect record of winning every pool game.
In pool play since 1987, the All Blacks have beaten: Italy, Fiji, Argentina, England, USA, Italy, Ireland, Wales, Japan, Tonga, England, Italy, Italy, Canada, Tonga, Wales, Italy, Portugal, Scotland, Romania, Tonga, Japan, France, Canada, Argentina, Namibia, Georgia, Tonga, South Africa, Canada and Namibia.
Damn Typhoon.
We’ve never had Australia in our pool. Quite interesting given that we’ve had everyone else.
Spain
Zimbabwe
Russia
...Samoa? Fiji?
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@canefan said in RWC: QF2: All Blacks Vs "To Be Advised":
Samoa? Fiji?
We had Fiji in 1987 in Christchurch. But it is kind of crazy that those two have been at every RWC since and we have never drawn either, while having Tonga in 99, 03, 11 & 15 and a standing appointment with Italy too!
I don't think we have ever been able to draw Australia. They've always been a top 4 seed at the time of the draw since 03. And in the early years were either gerrymandered away from them where there were multiple hosts (87, 91, 99), and also finished top 4 in 1991 which dictated the 1995 seedings.
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Just hope the cancellations don't cause any controversy in Pool A.
There's been enough issues with reffing the tackle area without teams bitching about losing a QF place due to a cancelled match
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@rotated said in RWC: QF2: All Blacks Vs "To Be Advised":
I don't think we have ever been able to draw Australia. They've always been a top 4 seed at the time of the draw since 03. And in the early years were either gerrymandered away from them where there were multiple hosts (87, 91, 99), and also finished top 4 in 1991 which dictated the 1995 seedings.
1999 was probably the only possibility, as Aust needed to play qualifiers, but they had 5 pools in that RWC for some reason.
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When is the team named?
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@No-Quarter said in RWC: QF2: All Blacks Vs "To Be Advised":
When is the team named?
When is the referee named more importantly?
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@rotated just hope Skeeny ain't named as TMO
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"To Be Advised" firming as Ireland by the looks of some of that weather ...
Has that shit hit Yokohama? Would be surprised if the city is in any fit state to host a rugby match for a few days.
Would be 16 points each to Japan and Oireland with Japan getting the nod on the who beat who.
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It's a shame DMac got injured. He'd be dynamite at this world cup. Quick on his feet and five foot nothing he'd be sure to attract a couple of yellows with the 'right' technique.
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@booboo said in RWC: QF2: All Blacks Vs "To Be Advised":
"To Be Advised" firming as Ireland by the looks of some of that weather ...
Has that shit hit Yokohama? Would be surprised if the city is in any fit state to host a rugby match for a few days.
Would be 16 points each to Japan and Oireland with Japan getting the nod on the who beat who.
Didn't realise how close Yokohama is to Tokyo. 22km apparently.
So a fair bet that it has.
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@booboo said in RWC: QF2: All Blacks Vs "To Be Advised":
@booboo said in RWC: QF2: All Blacks Vs "To Be Advised":
"To Be Advised" firming as Ireland by the looks of some of that weather ...
Has that shit hit Yokohama? Would be surprised if the city is in any fit state to host a rugby match for a few days.
Would be 16 points each to Japan and Oireland with Japan getting the nod on the who beat who.
Didn't realise how close Yokohama is to Tokyo. 22km apparently.
So a fair that it has.
It's a 45 minute train ride. Almost like an extension of Tokyo. Judging from that video from yesterday of the Japanese players wading through water in the tunnel to the pitch, I would say conditions will be something resembling the Scots vs ABs at Eden Park
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I predict we'll play Japan. I fancy Scotland to win a dour weather affected contest, but Japan to be within 7.
I am hearing that the game is likely to be going ahead.
Brian Moore said he heard it's cancelled, so that is good enough for me to say it's on.
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The permutations for us to play Japan please?
Anyone?....bueller?....
I've only just twigged to losing bonus points so am in need of info from cleverer people
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@Siam said in RWC: (QF2) All Blacks v "To Be Advised":
The permutations for us to play Japan please?
Anyone?....bueller?....
I've only just twigged to losing bonus points so am in need of info from cleverer people
See here: https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/post/382690
Basically if Japan wins or draws, we end up playing Ireland.
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@antipodean said in RWC: (QF2) All Blacks v "To Be Advised":
@Siam said in RWC: (QF2) All Blacks v "To Be Advised":
The permutations for us to play Japan please?
Anyone?....bueller?....
I've only just twigged to losing bonus points so am in need of info from cleverer people
See here: https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/post/382690
Basically if Japan wins or draws, we end up playing Ireland.
And if Scotland win:
- by 8+; or
*with a BP; or
- by 1-7 but with 4 tries (Japan not also getting 4 tries).
Then we play Scotland.
If Japan win or draw, or score 2 BPs then we play Ireland.
If Japan loses by less than 7, and Scotland don't get a 4 try BP then we play Japan.
If Japan gets 2 BPs then we play Ireland.
Clear?
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Lots of chat on who we'd rather face.
Prefer in order
Scotland
Japan/Ireland (I can't separate)Honestly, if Ireland keep us to 9 points, they deserve to win. Can't see it happening though, our forwards were pants against them last time. In some ways, Japan wiht a strong crowd and nothing to lose could be scarier.
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@nzzp said in RWC: (QF2) All Blacks v "To Be Advised":
Lots of chat on who we'd rather face.
Prefer in order
Scotland
Japan/Ireland (I can't separate)Honestly, if Ireland keep us to 9 points, they deserve to win. Can't see it happening though, our forwards were pants against them last time. In some ways, Japan wiht a strong crowd and nothing to lose could be scarier.
We can talk horses for courses all we like. But at the end of the day it's only Japan, and Ireland got found out by them. Shame on us if we can't beat any or all 3
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@nzzp said in RWC: (QF2) All Blacks v "To Be Advised":
Scotland
ooh, after all thier BS this week, I want that one!!
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@nzzp said in RWC: (QF2) All Blacks v "To Be Advised":
Lots of chat on who we'd rather face.
Prefer in order
Scotland
Japan/Ireland (I can't separate)Honestly, if Ireland keep us to 9 points, they deserve to win. Can't see it happening though, our forwards were pants against them last time. In some ways, Japan wiht a strong crowd and nothing to lose could be scarier.
I do not underestimate the possibility of a ref getting swept up by a noisy home crowd cheering on the cherry blossoms. I’ve heard refs talk about this as being one the most challenging aspects of their job.
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It's going to Ireland. Pumped as hell already and it's only Sunday.
