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  • WingerW Offline
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    @Siam

    Loses to Ireland. Lions drawn series. Poor RWC just finished. Hes a coach who benefited from Smith and Henry and great players to choose from but was badly exposed at the end.

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    I wonder how someone like Walker-Leware would go at 6

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    @Billy-Tell said in Hansen:

    @akan004 said in Hansen:

    Used to be a huge fan of Hansen but the non selection of Cane, dropping BFA for a flaky asf Jordie and the decision to pick weak reserve scrummaging props have seriously made him look like an amateur. Unfortunately he will be remembered for this and in hindsight should have bowed out at the end of 2017 as originally planned.

    To be replaced by who though?? Like who was actually available and proven in 2017?? All the good coaches were contracted elsewhere, you’d have basically been left with foster.

    I was referring more to Hansen's legacy and not what his departure would have done to the ABs. Granted Foster would have been even worse in all likelihood but Hansen would have gone down as arguably our best ever coach if he had stepped down in 2017.

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    Eddie Jones was right when he said Hansen always thought about what was best for the game.

    I think we went too far in recent times trying to be loved and always trying to project a positive image at all times. In the end the worse thing you say about a Rugby player is that they are nice. Time for the All Blacks to be more ruthless and nasty.

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    You can't be coach for 8 years, still be world number 1 and only benefit from the coach who came before you. He's obviously a good coach.

    Our game plan was still frustrating though. In the first half, England were on top and we were under pressure. So what did we do? We kicked the ball back to them at the first opportunity. Is that the coaching? Or do our players just have low rugby IQ? Why can't we be content with just keeping the ball, absorbing the pressure and striking later when we get on top? We have done this repeatedly over the past few years. Either our game plan is poor or Hansen has not been able to implement a good game plan for absorbing and confronting pressure.

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    @Winger Nowhere near "mobile" enough, lock is definitely his position.

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    @Winger I hate these lock/6 conversions. I understand the modern game but we need actual locks and actual 6’s. There is a difference.

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    Hansen has been a great coach, but I don't understand our tactics at all last night.
    We picked a side to attack the lineout, then didn't even try that often, and when we did, failed.
    As part of that lineout plan, we also appeared to have a plan to kick the ball away - no way that Aaron Smith attacking box kick wasn't under direction - and back to the bad old days of shitty chip kicks from Barrett. In fact it looked like we were so confident in our ability to dismantle their lineout that we didn't care about retaining possession in general - running into touch all the time as well.
    And we lost all composure when it didn't work. A shit watch.

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    replied to broughie on last edited by
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    @broughie remember Flavell, Larsen, Gibbes, Blackadder...didn't work then and doesn't work now.

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    Blame the game plan that’s why we lost
    It’s the same one Joseph and Brown used against SA they lost too its flawed against
    The Bigger aggressive Forward packs with astute kickers.

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    After we lost to Australia in 03 ,

    Ted and co when taking over , put lots of emphasis back into our forwards , Making them dominant Again,

    It’s like we have done the full cycle, and it needs to happen again

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    @Chris Japan probably had no option. They are too small.

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    @broughie said in Hansen:

    @Chris Japan probably had no option. They are too small.

    It’s hard to knock what japan achieved when they exceeded all expectations

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    replied to kiwiinmelb on last edited by
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    @kiwiinmelb I am not knocking them just stating the obvious once they came up against the big boys. They exceeded expectations and good for them.

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    replied to kiwiinmelb on last edited by Chris
    #138

    @kiwiinmelb said in Hansen:

    @broughie said in Hansen:

    @Chris Japan probably had no option. They are too small.

    It’s hard to knock what japan achieved when they exceeded all expectations

    Not Knocking them think they lite up the WC great to see them go well for Rugbys sake just stating the Game plan doesn't work against some teams

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    replied to shark on last edited by
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    @shark said in Hansen:

    Franks adds experience and mana.

    Great All Black, but the above is more like this now:

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    @broughie said in Hansen:

    @kiwiinmelb I am not knocking them just stating the obvious once they came up against the big boys. They exceeded expectations and good for them.

    Get where you are coming from , I guess in Japan’s case they played to their strengths, if they had taken them on up front they may have got monstered more so .

    That shouldn’t be the case for us

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    replied to SammyC on last edited by taniwharugby
    #141

    @SammyC youd think with Tew leaving, good chance for Robinson to make his mark with a new path.

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    When is the new NZ All Black coach decided on ?

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