Coronavirus - Overall
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@Tim said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Siam I dunno. There have been regular warnings about exposure to these viruses from contact with, or consumption of, asian wildlife from serious experts for over 15 years though.
Yep. Well over. The wife was interviewing HKU scientists in the mid 90's and the warnings were there.
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and again a subject that everyone wants to learn more about, is totally dominated by character assessments...
Nearly 12 months into a global civilisation ruining virus and we're no closer to knowing it's true origin with every enquiry overrun by character smears, obfuscation and shooting messengers.
2020 eh?
ps, this obsession with the messenger hijacking all conversations, not just here on the fern
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@Siam said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Nearly 12 months into a global civilisation ruining virus and we're no closer to knowing it's true origin with every enquiry overrun by character smears, obfuscation and shooting messengers.
I think that we have a good idea. It was bat. I can't guarantee that but most scientists agree.
What do you think about swine flu, bird flu, and the original SARS?
Civet cat for dinner tonight?
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@Snowy said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Siam said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Nearly 12 months into a global civilisation ruining virus and we're no closer to knowing it's true origin with every enquiry overrun by character smears, obfuscation and shooting messengers.
I think that we have a good idea. It was bat. I can't guarantee that but most scientists agree.
What do you think about swine flu, bird flu, and the original SARS?
Civet cat for dinner tonight?
Wasn't HIV caused by animal crossover as well?
Eating primate meat or exposed to blood infected with primate version of HIV
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Snowy said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Siam said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Nearly 12 months into a global civilisation ruining virus and we're no closer to knowing it's true origin with every enquiry overrun by character smears, obfuscation and shooting messengers.
I think that we have a good idea. It was bat. I can't guarantee that but most scientists agree.
What do you think about swine flu, bird flu, and the original SARS?
Civet cat for dinner tonight?
Wasn't HIV caused by animal crossover as well?
Eating primate meat or exposed to blood infected with primate version of HIV
As I understand it, yes. @tim is the man to ask.
What's the solution?
We stop eating all "game" meats?
Only have farmed meat, that we know is healthy?
All become vegans?I was suicidal yesterday, but the last option would do it.
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@canefan Ebola believed to have originated with bush tucker as well. It's a two way exchange too. We have introduced polio into chimp and gorilla populations in West Africa.
I don't get why the conspiracy theories gain such ground when the obvious answer is well the obvious answer - and backed up with science.
After I ate asocena in the Philippines I learned you can contract rabies from it
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@Siam said in Coronavirus - Overall:
and again a subject that everyone wants to learn more about, is totally dominated by character assessments...
Nearly 12 months into a global civilisation ruining virus and we're no closer to knowing it's true origin with every enquiry overrun by character smears, obfuscation and shooting messengers.
2020 eh?
ps, this obsession with the messenger hijacking all conversations, not just here on the fern
In an age where every hairy assed idiot with an opinion can reach an audience of millions, it's never been more importat to vet people's qualifications to talk on a subject.
Crucial to stop the spread of incorrect information, and to stop feeding conspiracy theorists nutjobs.
We have never had more access to information in history, but you could argue as a population we have never been dumber. A good indicator is thinking that reading websites is "research".
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@Kirwan said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Siam said in Coronavirus - Overall:
and again a subject that everyone wants to learn more about, is totally dominated by character assessments...
Nearly 12 months into a global civilisation ruining virus and we're no closer to knowing it's true origin with every enquiry overrun by character smears, obfuscation and shooting messengers.
2020 eh?
ps, this obsession with the messenger hijacking all conversations, not just here on the fern
In an age where every hairy assed idiot with an opinion can reach an audience of millions, it's never been more importat to vet people's qualifications to talk on a subject.
Crucial to stop the spread of incorrect information, and to stop feeding conspiracy theorists nutjobs.
We have never had more access to information in history, but you could argue as a population we have never been dumber. A good indicator is thinking that reading websites is "research".
Very true
On the flip side, pointing and shrieking liar, witch or nut job is very effective to scupper an investigation, (nearly all large scale sexual abuse scandals) and the early months of covid from December 2019 are filled with information gaps.This line of investigation shouldn't be concluded so quickly on the basis that she's of questionable character. The burden of proof showing that she's wrong can't soley be determined on a character assessment in the first 24 hours.
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@Siam said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@canefan at the very least hear the lady out.
It used to be that we'd listen to the evidence first and then decide if they're nutters
I said that about Winger once.
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@Kirwan said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Siam said in Coronavirus - Overall:
and again a subject that everyone wants to learn more about, is totally dominated by character assessments...
Nearly 12 months into a global civilisation ruining virus and we're no closer to knowing it's true origin with every enquiry overrun by character smears, obfuscation and shooting messengers.
2020 eh?
ps, this obsession with the messenger hijacking all conversations, not just here on the fern
In an age where every hairy assed idiot with an opinion can reach an audience of millions, it's never been more importat to vet people's qualifications to talk on a subject.
Crucial to stop the spread of incorrect information, and to stop feeding conspiracy theorists nutjobs.
We have never had more access to information in history, but you could argue as a population we have never been dumber. A good indicator is thinking that reading websites is "research".
Thats a big ask of @Crucial mate
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@voodoo said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Kirwan said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Siam said in Coronavirus - Overall:
and again a subject that everyone wants to learn more about, is totally dominated by character assessments...
Nearly 12 months into a global civilisation ruining virus and we're no closer to knowing it's true origin with every enquiry overrun by character smears, obfuscation and shooting messengers.
2020 eh?
ps, this obsession with the messenger hijacking all conversations, not just here on the fern
In an age where every hairy assed idiot with an opinion can reach an audience of millions, it's never been more importat to vet people's qualifications to talk on a subject.
Crucial to stop the spread of incorrect information, and to stop feeding conspiracy theorists nutjobs.
We have never had more access to information in history, but you could argue as a population we have never been dumber. A good indicator is thinking that reading websites is "research".
Thats a big ask of @Crucial mate
I do try. Then I give up because I am lazy.
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@Crucial said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Winger said in Coronavirus - Overall:
I thought this was funny
You would.
About as funny as drinking a cup of cold vomit.
The ego involved in thinking people that ignore your internet "research" are sheep is astronomical.
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@Kirwan said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Crucial said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Winger said in Coronavirus - Overall:
I thought this was funny
You would.
About as funny as drinking a cup of cold vomit.
The ego involved in thinking people that ignore your internet "research" are sheep is astronomical.
I thought winger was commenting on himself.....
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