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@Kirwan said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:
Next step, start locking up some of these doctors that experimented on children.
Also some of the parents who pushed their kids into transitioning or didn't take steps to protect them from unscrupulous clinicians.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:
@Kirwan said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:
Next step, start locking up some of these doctors that experimented on children.
Also some of the parents who pushed their kids into transitioning or didn't take steps to protect them from unscrupulous clinicians.
This. A parent’s first duty is to protect your children. Nothing else comes close.
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One of the sensible psychologists at the Tavistock Centre told of parents renaming and treating 2-3 year old boys as girls, and pushing hard for them to be transitioned before they started school - on the basis they "liked wearing dresses".
Pure child abuse.
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@Catogrande said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:
@Kirwan said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:
Next step, start locking up some of these doctors that experimented on children.
Also some of the parents who pushed their kids into transitioning or didn't take steps to protect them from unscrupulous clinicians.
This. A parent’s first duty is to protect your children. Nothing else comes close.
Which is fine until medical professionals start telling you that the best way to look after your child is to support their gender transition with hormones. Then there's uncertainty - it would be incredibly tough for everyone.
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Mate, not saying it’s not tough, but I couldn’t disagree with you more.
Edit: I just realised that I likely misinterpreted your reply, apologies if so. I was trying to say that the parental duty should shit all over any such “medical” advice but then realised that you were probably saying the same.
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A group of 16 American women have launched a landmark legal case against the National Collegiate Athletics Association (NCAA) over the participation of transgender athletes in their sports, with their lawyer stating that the organisation has “institutionalised cheating and discrimination” against them.
With a particular focus on Lia Thomas, the transgender swimmer who claimed a NCAA women’s title in March 2022, the group has filed its 156-page claim at the United States District Court in the northern district of Atlanta, Georgia.
It was in Atlanta that the NCAA Division 1 swimming championships took place, with the fact that about 300 women shared a dressing room with Thomas - at the time with “full male genitalia” - cited in the complaint. Thomas claimed the NCAA title in the women’s 500-yard freestyle event, with two Olympic silver medal-winners - Emma Weyant and Erica Sullivan - finishing second and third.
The Olympians are not among the complainants but Bill Bock, formerly general counsel at the United States Anti-Doping Agency and the lead attorney in their cases against Lance Armstrong and Alberto Salazar, is acting for the group, which also includes female athletes from volleyball, tennis and track and field. Bock has told The Times that the “discrimination against female student athletes should disqualify the NCAA from being a sport governing body”.
It represents an unprecedented action against the organisation that oversees college sport in America, and could lead to substantial claims for damages as well as a change in NCAA rules on the participation of transgender athletes in female categories, which have been tightened since 2022. The women also want to be awarded what they consider to be their rightful placing in their respective events which, if successful, would lead to Thomas being disqualified. Central to their claim is an accusation that the NCAA has made a “radical departure from Title IX’s original meaning”, which is the federal civil rights law that prohibits sex-based discrimination in any school or education facility that receives government funding.
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Hope they win big
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To channel my inner Michael Ironside from Total Recall - “About damned time”.
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Does Twitter have a presence in Australia? I know they closed their Sydney office. I'd just close up shop and tell the eSafety Commissioner to fuck off.
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Watching with interest
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I was going to say he can go fuck himself, but won't...
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:
After Scotland's Hate Crime law comes into force (it apparently makes calling a trans woman a biological male - even in private - a potential criminal offence), JK Rowling calls 11 trans women biological males and dares the police to arrest her.
this was all over by tea time yesterday with Police Scotland confirming that no laws had been broken in the above thread, i.e. its still legal to say a transwoman is a man (i still can't believe i need to write that down in 2024).
One caveat however, we have yet to find out if the above has been recorded as a non crime hate incident (what even is that for fucks sake?). Problem with these for normal people is that they will be recorded and accessible and can be used in the future to monitor a pattern of behaviour etc. Personally i find it outrageous that the police will record these however I also think its unsustainable and will disappear in due course.
As crazy as Scotland is, I am still grateful to be living in the UK rather than Canada or Australia. Still watching Tickle vs Giggle with interest.
Transgender debate, in sport, in general