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@baron-silas-greenback said in US Politics:
@catogrande said in US Politics:
So Cohen has been found guilty of several charges and faces a jail term of 36 months. Any thoughts as to how this might impact on Trump? Some news outlets are suggesting his wider business dealings are being put under greater scrutiny following the verdict on Cohen.
he has been convicted of lying.... good luck using him as a witness...
Muller is just an invesigator looking for a crime. he is oging to keep finding things, because... how could he not. Even if he has to make stuff up, he will. Trump is correct this is a witch hunt. Anyone remember when the point of this was russian collusion?Ha! Good point. A somewhat compromised witness.
Fair point also about it being supposed to be about Russian collusion but, in the case of Cohen, if one investigation uncovers something else, well they shouldn't ignore it should they? Anyway not just lying, campaign finance violations and tax evasion. If any I'd say the middle one is most likely to impact on Trump. To what extent though is something else.
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@catogrande said in US Politics:
@baron-silas-greenback said in US Politics:
@catogrande said in US Politics:
So Cohen has been found guilty of several charges and faces a jail term of 36 months. Any thoughts as to how this might impact on Trump? Some news outlets are suggesting his wider business dealings are being put under greater scrutiny following the verdict on Cohen.
he has been convicted of lying.... good luck using him as a witness...
Muller is just an invesigator looking for a crime. he is oging to keep finding things, because... how could he not. Even if he has to make stuff up, he will. Trump is correct this is a witch hunt. Anyone remember when the point of this was russian collusion?Ha! Good point. A somewhat compromised witness.
Fair point also about it being supposed to be about Russian collusion but, in the case of Cohen, if one investigation uncovers something else, well they shouldn't ignore it should they? Anyway not just lying, campaign finance violations and tax evasion. If any I'd say the middle one is most likely to impact on Trump. To what extent though is something else.
Because the bedrock of western judicial process is that prosecutors investigate crimes, not people. This has turned into a farce. If anyone on the planet faced this sort of scrutiny they would all be compromised.
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The Texas Fifth Circuit has just struck down Obamacare as unconstitutional. The appeal by those hoping to save it must take place here. Highly unlikely it will be successful because make-up of this circuit is largely conservative.
Should it be upheld, it completely shifts the balance of power in Congress. It is the ultimate leverage for President Trump in a new session
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God I hope she runs again
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12177755
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@jegga said in US Politics:
God I hope she runs again
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12177755
Vomit inducing.
How the hell was I pro Hillary and so oblivious to this garbage in 2016?
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Sanders had her as a proxy on the campaign trail. Now the US press has finally realised what an evil person she is after Allyssa Milano and others have called her out for being a hateful antisemite with links to the muslim brotherhood I hope this clown stands again too, the internet is full of photos of them together.
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Lots of rumours that the Republicans have video of Sanders chanting "Death to America" at a Sandinista rally in the '90's.
What isn't a rumour is that Sanders co-sponsored a bill in Maine and Vermont in '97 for nuclear waste to be kept in Texas as "only poor Latinos and white folk live there" . You can imagine the campaign slogan - "Bernie Sanders - environmental racist"
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@jegga said in US Politics:
God I hope she runs again
Perhaps the 8 year-old called the people who weren't going to vote for him, "Deplorables"...
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@victor-meldrew said in US Politics:
@jegga said in US Politics:
God I hope she runs again
Perhaps the 8 year-old called the people who weren't going to vote for him, "Deplorables"...
The 8 year old is callled Martha and is a baby Democrat, so I assume zhe is a zher
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@rembrandt said in US Politics:
How the hell was I pro Hillary and so oblivious to this garbage in 2016?Fake news my friend. Fake news.
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Turning points, tipping-points, beginning of the ends, bombshell-after-bombshell, the walls are closing in...
This is a hilarious mashup. The fact it’s being spotlighted by Bernie pinkos who hate Trump’s guts should tell you how shitty & useless mainstream news media has become. Even they see straight through the mass hysteria.
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@baron-silas-greenback
I like the humor and agree with free speech issues he raises.
I also agree Trump hypes things up and is playing the poltical game to a certain extent (albeit with less finesses than Obama and having the massive handicap of the media and entertainment establishment being opposed to him) I even think sections of Fox dislike him and yearn for a time of a more civilized era where the right lost with dignity.But he uses a familiar fallback, if we let their be open debate then the left(the civilized smart left like him) will come up with the real solutions.
Nah, the left doesn't have any solutions in many areas.
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Either ambivalent to the issue or are actively encouraging it.China - no solution -
Under Obama, China was facing next to zero pressure because it was Obama (not Trump) that was in the pocket of the Chamber of Commerce. Or Obama was too dumb, lacking in nous or cowardly to take them on.North Korea - no solution
A lot of pontificating about how wrong Trump is. Trump has not solved, but there is more encouragement here than at any other time in history.ISIS in Syria and Iraq
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@jegga
Fuck I hate those smug pricks at Vox.
Bernie genuinely cares about workers. Of that there can be no doubt.He also requires probably 50%+ corp tax to fund free education and healthcare.
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@frank said in US Politics:
@jegga
Fuck I hate those smug pricks at Vox.
Bernie genuinely cares about workers. Of that there can be no doubt.He also requires probably 50%+ corp tax to fund free education and healthcare.
Not sure that would play well with multinationals staying in the US (and their jobs)I think the only positive I can give Bernie is that he's allowing the left in the US to have a conversation about their open borders insanity.
Things aren't so rosy at vox these days ,
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This article is so brilliant (brilliant in that I really agree with it ), I am posting it in full for the reading pleasure of the Fern.
(Victor Hanson is far better at explaining the intellectual basis for Trump's policies than he or his administration is.)
The Globalist Mindset: They Hate You
By Victor Davis HansonAgainst what or whom is the contemporary Western public pushing back?
The French non-Parisians against new green taxes on already unaffordable gasoline? Broke southern European Union nations against the financial demands of German bankers? The Eastern Europeans against French and German open-border mandates?
The British masses against both the EU and their own government that either cannot or will not follow the will of the people and implement Brexit? The American populists against outsourcing, offshoring, and illegal immigration?
The common target of all these populist pushbacks is an administrative and cultural elite that shares a set of transnational and globalist values and harbors mostly contempt for the majority of their own Neanderthal citizens who are deemed hopelessly unwoken to environmental, racial, gender, and cultural inevitabilities.
In a word, the Ivy League, Oxbridge, and the Sorbonne masters of the universe assume that the world is on a predetermined trajectory. We are to follow an arc of history bending toward state-managed social justice if you will—to end up as a sort of global Menlo Park, Malibu, Upper West Side, Saint-Germain-des-Prés, Schwabing, or Kensington. No wonder, it is their ethical duty of transnationals to goad the fated, but sometimes stalled, process along.
Like Aristocrats of Old
Voters in consensual societies are often assumed too ignorant of the world beyond their borders, too encumbered with traditional racial, ethnic, gender, religious, and nationalist prejudices, and too ill-informed to know what is good for them. No wonder that sometimes hoi polloi must either vote repeatedly until they get it right, or follow executive and judicial fiats issued from their betters on high. In the globalist mindset, Brexit passed not because it was felt to be good by a majority or even advantageous for the United Kingdom, but because racists, xenophobes, nativists, protectionists, and chauvinists deluded the clueless public into thinking a pre-EU, and more racist and sexist Britain was somehow superior.A postelection depressed Hillary Clinton had to travel all the way to Mumbai, India to find a more enlightened audience that would appreciate her insight that the ogre Trump had beat her because:
If you look at the map of the United States, there is all that red in the middle, places where Trump won. What that map doesn’t show you is that I won the places that own two-thirds of America’s Gross Domestic Product. I won the places that are optimistic, diverse, dynamic, moving forward. And his whole campaign, Make America Great Again, was looking backwards. You don’t like black people getting rights, you don’t like women getting jobs, you don’t want to see that Indian American succeeding more than you are, whatever that problem is, I am going to solve it.
The globalist elite is certainly transnational and is sickened by localism, traditionalism, and autonomy. Monsieur Macron shares much more in common with Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, or Justin Trudeau than he does with rural Frenchmen. It is almost as if in 2019 our elites are emulating the interlocking aristocratic families of late 19th-century Europe, but instead of being common descendants of Queen Victoria they are the godchildren of Menlo Park, Brussels, Strasburg, Davos, and Wall Street.
Donald Trump’s efforts to deregulate the U.S. economy, demand reciprocal trade with China, Mexico, or Germany, rout ISIS, open up federal lands for natural gas and oil exploration, build pipelines, lower taxes, and grow the economy at best are seen as misguided parochial boosterism and at worse the sort of selfish nationalism that ignores expert global and world-is-flat consensus. In either case, the common denominator is that the world community can ill afford another U.S. president who has not been stamped, vetted, or audited by an Ivy League law or business school, a prior Washington D.C. federal office, or Wall Street firm.
Angela Merkel—who recently pronounced that nations must be “prepared to give up their sovereignty”—and her ilk are representations of the same sort of values as those of Hillary Clinton’s circle. Elites do not see their fellow citizens in exceptional terms of the affinities of a common language, shared history, or sovereign geography. Instead, they envision themselves as Socratic citizens of the world. They are an international siblinghood with common blue-chip educations, wealth, and long service in the administrative state. The anointed alone “see” and “grasp” what is really going on with the world, and therefore what really needs to be done right now, at all costs, regardless of the opposition from what Hillary wrote off as “all that red in the middle.”
International Crusading
Globalism is both an ideology and a culture of behavior. The creed is that the Western world, given its colonial and imperialist past, has a duty both to make amends to the former third world through magnanimously lending the global community elite Western expertise—whether through Kyoto- or Paris-like climate accords, foreign interventions guided by Western humanitarian principles, asymmetrical trade agreements, open borders, or U.N. mandates.The globalist alone knows how global warming threatens us and how the ignorant masses must sacrifice to cool things down, how nationalism supposedly causes world wars, how sexism, racism, and homophobia have warped Western, but non-necessarily non-Western, society, and how human nature can be modified to avoid these pathologies through greater coercion, more relevant social education, improved material conditions, and greater secular ecumenicalism—a far better religion than calcified Christendom. The Western consumer—fat, “lazy,” played out—surely does not need any more affluence or income. His nation, therefore, can afford to subsidize, through his superfluous lifestyle, far nobler international crusades for mankind.
The nation-state then is passé. Transnational organizations, the larger and more powerful the better, tame mindless Western chauvinism, while enhancing and making invaluable alternative post-Western paradigms. The Secretary-General of the United Nations, the chief executive officer of the World Bank, the Secretary-General of NATO, the Director-General of the World Trade Organization, a Nobel Peace Prize Laureate, the President of the Council of Foreign Relations, the president of CNN Worldwide, all these are certainly to be listened to in a way an elected senator from Kansas, the nuts who stirred up the gilets jaunes, the unhinged Poles and Bulgarians who wanted to build fences on their borders, or renegade British MPs pushing for Brexit should not be.
Globalist penance for past sins is accomplished in a variety of ways. Non-Westerns are not to be held to symmetrical value systems. Islamic countries can destroy churches, Western nations consider mosques sacrosanct. Illegal immigration force feeds diversity onto a tired and exhausted Western public in dire need of having its horizons expanded by the other. Dumping, patent and copyright theft, and technological appropriation are sins only for wayward Westerners.
The elite must never be subject to the sometimes unfortunate ramifications of their own ideologies—any more than a laboratory scientist need be singed when he recklessly puts the wrong volatile ingredients into his beaker mix. Open-borders architects in the U.S. need not put their children in schools overwhelmed by illegal immigrants. Walls are useless on borders but effective around Malibu and Napa estates. The elite need not live in neighborhoods where European languages are rarely spoken; others less liberal need such exposure and enlightenment. French citizens must pay high gas taxes for their huge carbon footprints, French elites fly private jets to conduct profitable business in the carbon-rich Gulf, India, and China.
“Noble” Ends, Unethical Means
Globalists generally assume that their own privileged material conditions are pitiful wages for the greater good they do and so justify their material hypocrisies, as if they were wounded wild fawns forced to rely on rich artificial shrubbery of suburban gardens. They often share the greatest disdain for the rural and muscular classes of their own countries who lack the sophistication of the elite and the romanticism of the distant poor. If worse comes to worst, such impediments can simply die off and be replaced by more fertile, more energetic immigrants from the former Third World happy to have a shot at Western material conditions and the general welfare state, and who are at least thankful and appreciative of their benefactors and so more than willing to be receptive to globalist, transnational, and redistributive bromides.Globalism ultimately is an offspring of elite progressive universities, think tanks, foundations, government institutions, and borderless corporatism. All the old progressive boilerplate—anti-trust legislation, prohibitions on monopolies, product liability—ceases when vast multibillion-dollar tech fortunes put their money into progressive causes, and thereby remind us that sometimes noble ends justify unethical means of obtaining them.
Facebook, Google, and Twitter have a perfect right to monopolize, to warp political expression, and to censor free speech if they devote their billions to enacting global climate, political, or social justice change, in the manner that here at home the Justice Department, the FBI, the CIA, and NSA—at times in conjunction with their foreign counterparts—justifiably had to monitor, use informants, and spread libelous smears on reckless Cro-Magnons like Donald J. Trump, who would harken us back to an embarrassing nationalist and sovereign past. Illegality has its uses.
Whom do the globalists despise?
The carbon spewing Winnebago owners, the snowmobilers, the jet skiers, the Glock packers, the Elks Clubbers, the lathe workers, the 101st Airborners with molôn labé tattooed on their arms, the 7-11 owners, the nutty Brit who speaks reverentially of Churchill, the dumb grubby French guy on a tractor who has no clue that his diesel engine must soon be replaced by three-hour batteries, the wacko Greek who cannot appreciate a boatload of noble Libyans landing on the beach below his ancestral olive grove in Crete, the limited Czech who clings to the hokey belief that residents in the Czech Republic should still speak Czech—in other words, all the autonomous cranks, and odd ballers who did not get the message, are not yet on board, and should have been by now long past woke.
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@rembrandt said in US Politics:
Quite enjoyed this. Neither are my favourite commentators but a very good natured argument not shy to call each other up on what they misread about each others views.
I thought his Netflix special was decent. Readily admits to being a dickhead and it was interesting to hear his side of the stories you see in the news
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@jegga said in US Politics:
I thought his Netflix special was decent. Readily admits to being a dickhead and it was interesting to hear his side of the stories you see in the news
Have to admit as a person who is not his biggest fan, I thought it was pretty good. And I went into it with a decidedly pre-formed opinion that I wouldn't like it.
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