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@Paekakboyz said in US Politics:
@Winger I can only commend your consistency in pivoting and reframing any commentary or questions that challenge your take.
To be fair that could just about be any ferner on any subject.
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@MN5 said in US Politics:
@Paekakboyz said in US Politics:
@Winger I can only commend your consistency in pivoting and reframing any commentary or questions that challenge your take.
To be fair that could just about be any ferner on any subject.
All Im saying is I will wait until I see the evidence (see one example below)
And the mainstream media is very biased against Trump (surely no one really doubts the truth of this statement)BREAKING: Trump Campaign Files Suit in Michigan After Massive Dump of Ballots For Biden Suddenly Appear Overnight
By Cristina Laila
Published November 4, 2020 at 1:19pmThe Trump campaign on Wednesday announced it filed suit in Michigan after a massive dump of ballots for Joe Biden appeared overnight.
“As votes in Michigan continue to be counted, the presidential race in the state remains extremely tight as we always knew it would be. President Trump’s campaign has not been provided with meaningful access to numerous counting locations to observe the opening of ballots and the counting process, as guaranteed by Michigan law,” Trump’s camp said in a statement.
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There appears to be a questionable practice that occurred in Nevada. Got family that live in Vegas and they said they received a mail in ballot, but they never requested it.
That doesn’t seem controversial but this from the Nevada Secretary of State directions:
“Any registered voter may request to vote by mail. To request an absent ballot, you must complete and submit an Absent Ballot Request Form to the County Clerk/Registrar of Voters in the county where you are registered to vote.”
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@Winger i agree a lot of media is against Trump, i just dont think its as bias you you do, i think a lot of his actions justify grilling
and a "dump" of ballots isn't illegal...a ballot location will drop off all its ballots at the same time, does them taking their time to do so make it an illegal dump?
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@Kiwiwomble said in US Politics:
and a "dump" of ballots isn't illegal...a ballot location will drop off all its ballots at the same time, does them taking their time to do so make it an illegal dump?
The issue is this
. President Trump’s campaign has not been provided with meaningful access to numerous counting locations to observe the opening of ballots and the counting process,
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@Winger said in US Politics:
@Virgil said in US Politics:
Think many are confusing fraud with incompetence.
Its fraud.
Not proven yet. There are things that need to be checked.
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@Kirwan said in US Politics:
@Virgil said in US Politics:
Think many are confusing fraud with incompetence.
I think you might be downplaying Trump derangement syndrome. I think there are some people who would do anything to get Trump out.
Plenty would do anything to keep him in, including himself.
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@Kirwan said in US Politics:
@Winger said in US Politics:
@Virgil said in US Politics:
Think many are confusing fraud with incompetence.
Its fraud.
Not proven yet. There are things that need to be checked.
Agree. But if proven it can't be dismissed as just incompetence. The onus is on the people responsible to appoint competent people whoa re aware of the rules governing the election
One issue seems to be the watchers weren't allowed to do their thing
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Rudy having a press conference
"this is how they keep power, they rig the votes"....isn't Trump president?
"We were 400k ahead in WI, how many do we need to be ahead to win?!"...1...but after all are counted
"We all know this system is rigged, we might take these lawsuits nationally to really exposed this corrupt system"....why not do something a year ago...or two? the corrupt system is only a problem if you loose?
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@Kiwiwomble said in US Politics:
..isn't Trump president?
Trump hasn't got the power to run everything in all the states. He has restrictions on his powers and has done nothing to work outside of these limits. Not a great dictator really
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I don't understand this wailing - the republican legislatures in Michigan and Wisconsin could have legislated to have all mail-n ballots counted beforehand, but didn't? It was also apparent that the mail-ins would be mainly democratic so this push was expected.
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@Kiwiwomble said in US Politics:
Rudy having a press conference
"this is how they keep power, they rig the votes"....isn't Trump president?
"We were 400k ahead in WI, how many do we need to be ahead to win?!"...1...but after all are counted
"We all know this system is rigged, we might take these lawsuits nationally to really exposed this corrupt system"....why not do something a year ago...or two? the corrupt system is only a problem if you loose?
Interestingly, both sides say the system is rigged. Democrats (and some Republicans) often speak about gerrymandering.
They clearly have structural issues with their elections. Glad to live in NZ, no mess, no fuss.
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