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    • Stargazer
      Stargazer last edited by Duluth

      A dislocated shoulder is set to deny Crusaders openside flanker Tom Christie the chance to play the Blues in Auckland on Sunday afternoon.
      
      The Crusaders have confirmed Christie, who was forced to leave the field during the second half of the 39-17 win over the Chiefs in Christchurch last Saturday night, will have to undergo “further investigation and specialist review’’ over the next few days to determine the appropriate management of the injury.
      
      The Crusaders are likely to shift Sione Havili Talitui, who started at blindside flanker against the Chiefs, to the No 7 position.
      
      Cullen Grace, who was forced to miss that game because of sore ribs and was replaced by Whetukamokamo Douglas, is expected to be available to start at No 8.
      
      Blindside flanker Ethan Blackadder, who was also rested because of a head knock, could also be declared fit to meet the Blues.
      

      I hate articles that finish with "more to come". Just write the whole damn article before publishing it.

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300253328/super-rugby-aotearoa-crusaders-tackle-machine-tom-christie-dislocates-shoulder

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      • Duluth
        Duluth last edited by

        Any update on Papali’i? Is Choat the only fit 7 this week?

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          African Monkey @Duluth last edited by

          @duluth Haha a position where we have massive depth in and they're all injured at the same time.

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          • Tim
            Tim @Duluth last edited by

            @duluth They said something in the comments after the game that McDonald is confident of having a full squad available next week, but surely Papalii will be out.

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            • KiwiMurph
              KiwiMurph last edited by

              15,000 tickets already sold as of this morning.

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              • nzzp
                nzzp @KiwiMurph last edited by

                @kiwimurph said in Blues v Crusaders:

                15,000 tickets already sold as of this morning.

                mostly season ticket holders you'd think. They said the crowd at the weekend was 15k, but it looked more 10ish.

                Long range forecast looks great ... and they never change right 🙂

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                • Bovidae
                  Bovidae last edited by

                  Specsavers Referee: Paul Williams
                  Assistant 1: Mike Fraser
                  Assistant 2: James Doleman
                  TMO: Brendon Pickerill

                  🤣

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                  • Kirwan
                    Kirwan @Bovidae last edited by

                    @bovidae said in Blues v Crusaders:

                    Specsavers Referee: Paul Williams
                    Assistant 1: Mike Fraser
                    Assistant 2: James Doleman
                    TMO: Brendon Pickerill

                    🤣

                    Oh great.

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                    • KiwiMurph
                      KiwiMurph last edited by

                      So the refs don't have the review until Tuesday (if there is a game on Sunday) - but by this stage the refs for the next weekend's games have already been announced? - something is a bit off there.

                      Ben O'Keeffe has been the best ref so far this year - he should be reffing this game.

                      Having said that - Williams will be fine - he's a good ref - just not a good TMO!

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                      • Duluth
                        Duluth last edited by

                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300254782/super-rugby-all-blacks-and-crusaders-wing-george-bridge-available-to-face-blues

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                        • Crucial
                          Crucial @KiwiMurph last edited by

                          @kiwimurph said in Blues v Crusaders:

                          So the refs don't have the review until Tuesday (if there is a game on Sunday) - but by this stage the refs for the next weekend's games have already been announced? - something is a bit off there.

                          Ben O'Keeffe has been the best ref so far this year - he should be reffing this game.

                          Having said that - Williams will be fine - he's a good ref - just not a good TMO!

                          It’s ok Lawrence says that they don’t punish refs for one bad game, or one bad performance. He somehow missed that they same guy fucked up in two games in the same week.
                          Apparently he had never actually TMO’d before.
                          That’s a disservice to teams and fans to try someone out in our premier competition isn’t it.

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                          • taniwharugby
                            taniwharugby last edited by

                            @crucial how is TMOing really any different?

                            The rules don't change, just you sit and watch and make decision when required.

                            It should be easier, no split second ones after you have followed the play over 3 mins non-stop, you e
                            get the benefit of time, TMO shouldn't get it wrong.

                            There will be stuff they can't see to rule on, but 2 of the howlers on the weekend he had the evidence to make the right decision and got it wrong.

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                            • Crucial
                              Crucial @taniwharugby last edited by

                              @taniwharugby said in Blues v Crusaders:

                              @crucial how is TMOing really any different?

                              The rules don't change, just you sit and watch and make decision when required.

                              It should be easier, no split second ones after you have followed the play over 3 mins non-stop, you e
                              get the benefit of time, TMO shouldn't get it wrong.

                              There will be stuff they can't see to rule on, but 2 of the howlers on the weekend he had the evidence to make the right decision and got it wrong.

                              I would say that you need to experience going through the processes and not getting flustered or distracted. These guys are used to judging what is right in front of them, not what is on TV like us experts.

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                                African Monkey @Duluth last edited by

                                @duluth Mark Telea will be hoping he's unavailable Bridge was all over him in the air last time we played

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                                • Duluth
                                  Duluth @African Monkey last edited by

                                  @african-monkey said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                  Mark Telea will be hoping he's unavailable Bridge was all over him in the air last time we played

                                  Yeah, Telea had a shocker last year

                                  I think Narawa might start. He had a very strong second half against the Highlanders and has played plenty at fullback.
                                  The negatives would his lack of experience and sometimes his defence looks off.

                                  I think it's worth the risk of picking Narawa

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                                  • KiwiMurph
                                    KiwiMurph @Duluth last edited by

                                    @duluth if it was up against Bridge I'd play Narawa. If it was up against Leicester I would play Telea.

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                                      African Monkey last edited by

                                      I'd keep Telea regardless tbh. Think he and the coaching team would have learned a lot last year from that game.

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                                        trodthesod last edited by

                                        If Dalton Papali’i doesn’t play on Sunday Blake Gibson would be the obvious selection if recovered from his injury.Looking forward to the team selection for this game.

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                                        • kiwi_expat
                                          kiwi_expat @Duluth last edited by kiwi_expat

                                          @duluth said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                          @african-monkey said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                          Mark Telea will be hoping he's unavailable Bridge was all over him in the air last time we played

                                          Yeah, Telea had a shocker last year

                                          I think Narawa might start. He had a very strong second half against the Highlanders and has played plenty at fullback.
                                          The negatives would his lack of experience and sometimes his defence looks off.

                                          I think it's worth the risk of picking Narawa

                                          Can someone tell me why Leon is refraining from selecting AJ Lam, Zarn Sullivan or Jacob Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens on the bench over Narawa? Pretty sure Narawa played in both of the Blues losses in SRA 2020, he was poor against the Hurricanes in Wellington, making defensive errors and knock-ons, I was really not impressed. Surely the others are better options at this stage?

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                                          • KiwiMurph
                                            KiwiMurph @kiwi_expat last edited by

                                            @kiwi_expat well

                                            Zarn is a 10/15. Blues currently have 3 x 10s in the playing 23.

                                            Kneepkens I imagine you will see very soon. A debut against the Crusaders is a tough ask so probably won't see him this weekend.

                                            Lam I would sense is behind Kneepkens as an option.

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                                              Nogusta @KiwiMurph last edited by

                                              @kiwimurph Bryce Heem might just leapfrog all of em. Experienced player in a big game. He was in the warmups last Sunday which tends to mean those guys are the next cab off the rank. Mind you Kneepkens was in the warmups as well. TJ Faiane looks to be fit again so he may come into the matchday squad.

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                                              • KiwiMurph
                                                KiwiMurph @Nogusta last edited by

                                                @nogusta Faiane would come in for Tele'a. Good point about Heem!

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                                                  Nogusta @KiwiMurph last edited by

                                                  @kiwimurph probably be a 6-2 split again this week. I think Gibsons back so if Papaliis not fit then Gibson and Choat in there. Hodgman should be good to go too so James Lay out.

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                                                  • KiwiMurph
                                                    KiwiMurph last edited by

                                                    The big, bad Blues still need speed where it matters, and they’re breathing a sigh of relief that Blake Gibson has recovered from a rib injury in time to face the Crusaders at Eden Park on Sunday.
                                                    
                                                    With All Black Dalton Papalii out this week after taking a knock to his noggin’ against the Highlanders last Sunday, and new signing Dillon Hunt potentially out for the season with ongoing concussion issues, the Blues have been forced to dig deep in their openside flanker stock.
                                                    
                                                    They have added well-performed Auckland No 7 Adrian Choat to their squad as a replacement (for Hunt), but forwards coach Tom Coventry confirmed to Stuff that Gibson had made a full recovery from his rib problems and would be available to face the Crusaders on Sunday, if required.
                                                    
                                                    The Blues will name their squad on Friday, but will almost certainly start with Gibson at No 7, alongside the line-busting duo of Akira Ioane and Hoskins Sotutu, with Tom Robinson likely to provide loose forward cover off the bench.
                                                    
                                                    They will have their fourth All Black prop, Alex Hodgman, available for selection this week after he came through Tuesday’s training well
                                                    

                                                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300256356/super-rugby-blues-boost-as-blake-gibson-return-offsets-dalton-papalii-defection

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                                                    • Nepia
                                                      Nepia @KiwiMurph last edited by

                                                      @kiwimurph with Break Gibson starting looks like Akira will get some more time at 7 when the inevitable happens.

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                                                      • KiwiMurph
                                                        KiwiMurph @Nepia last edited by

                                                        @nepia nice nickname

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                                                        • Nepia
                                                          Nepia @KiwiMurph last edited by

                                                          @kiwimurph said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                                          @nepia nice nickname

                                                          I’m surprised it’s taken me this many years to think of it.

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                                                          • Kirwan
                                                            Kirwan @Nepia last edited by

                                                            @nepia said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                                            @kiwimurph said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                                            @nepia nice nickname

                                                            I’m surprised it’s taken me this many years to think of it.

                                                            He certainly has been unlucky. Mike Brewer levels of durability.

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                                                            • Tim
                                                              Tim last edited by Tim

                                                              Crusaders: Will Jordan, Sevu Reece, Jack Goodhue, David Havili, Leicester Fainga’anuku, Richie Mo’unga, Bryn Hall, Cullen Grace, Sione Havili Talitui, Ethan Blackadder, Samuel Whitelock, Scott Barrett (c), Michael Alaalatoa, Codie Taylor, Joe Moody.
                                                              Reserves: Brodie McAlister, George Bower, Oliver Jager, Mitchell Dunshea, Whetukamokamo Douglas, Mitchell Drummond, Fergus Burke, Dallas McLeod.

                                                              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300256762/super-rugby-crusaders-tackling-machine-tom-christie-done-for-rest-of-campaign

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                                                              • gt12
                                                                gt12 @Tim last edited by

                                                                @tim

                                                                That's a shame for Christie, but that Crusaders team looks very good. This should be a cracking game.

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                                                                • nzzp
                                                                  nzzp @gt12 last edited by

                                                                  @gt12 said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                                                  @tim

                                                                  That's a shame for Christie, but that Crusaders team looks very good. This should be a cracking game.

                                                                  Crusaders tight 5 and Richie Mo'unga give them the edge as usual. Should be a cracking game, but crusaders by 5. Bless clear underdogs

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                                                                  • gt12
                                                                    gt12 @nzzp last edited by

                                                                    @nzzp said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                                                    @gt12 said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                                                    @tim

                                                                    That's a shame for Christie, but that Crusaders team looks very good. This should be a cracking game.

                                                                    Crusaders tight 5 and Richie Mo'unga give them the edge as usual. Should be a cracking game, but crusaders by 5. Bless clear underdogs

                                                                    Yeah, 4 ABs in the front five with one squaddie coming off the bench does give them an advantage. However, the prop rotation and loosies for the Blues are also very good, so it should be a real ding dong battle.

                                                                    I'm also starting to really like the way that Otere Black is playing, he's probably No. 2 right now behind Richie.

                                                                    Crusaders by less than 7 seems about right but I will be cheering along my new second team. I'm hoping that Paps is healthy, but even without him the Blues may have the edge in the loosies.

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                                                                      Gunner @gt12 last edited by

                                                                      @gt12 said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                                                      @nzzp said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                                                      @gt12 said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                                                      @tim

                                                                      I'm hoping that Paps is healthy, but even without him the Blues may have the edge in the loosies.

                                                                      FIFY

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                                                                      • Bovidae
                                                                        Bovidae @gt12 last edited by

                                                                        @gt12 said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                                                        That's a shame for Christie

                                                                        Segner to get a call up?

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                                                                        • KiwiMurph
                                                                          KiwiMurph @Gunner last edited by

                                                                          @gunner Papali'i is not playing this weekend. Gibson is available though.

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                                                                          • Stargazer
                                                                            Stargazer @Bovidae last edited by

                                                                            @bovidae Brendon O'Connor more likely, I think.

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                                                                            • nzzp
                                                                              nzzp @gt12 last edited by

                                                                              @gt12 said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                                                              ... but I will be cheering along my new second team

                                                                              Plenty of room on the bandwagon - it's been pretty empty for a few years.

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                                                                              • Tim
                                                                                Tim last edited by

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                                                                                • Tim
                                                                                  Tim last edited by

                                                                                  Players not considered with injury: Soane Vikena (Pec), Ray Niuia (knee), Dillon Hunt (concussion), Dalton Papalii (concussion), Mark Telea (concussion), Jone Macalai (season-ending).

                                                                                  https://blues.rugby/experienced-line-up-for-clash-with-crusaders/

                                                                                  Heem is a weird one.

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                                                                                  • Stargazer
                                                                                    Stargazer @Tim last edited by

                                                                                    @tim What's weird about Heem? I totally expected him there; just not sure about when.

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