Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour
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@toddy said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@tim said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
After reading comments, I would've thought that the AB forwards smashed Wales, but they did not.
Fairly average 40 minutes of rugby against Wales B. Beauden Barrett good, Savea fringe running very good (great tactic against rush defence), Whitelock very good, Papalii good.
ABs very lucky not to concede three cards. Barrett for the knock down, and Blackadder's shoulder charge (tucked his arm, contact shoulder on shoulder). The Welsh player led with his head, and tucked it, but we were lucky there.
Yeah, was wondering at the time if we were going to see a red for Laulala and a yellow for Blackadder. Shit technique from both of them that could have cost us with a different ref.
That was my take on events, possibly two YC because Blackadder’s illegal hit sent Moriarity lower.
So mitigating factor for red.
But first point of contact was shoulder to head, which I’ve seen plenty given straight red.
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@tim said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@mikethesnow said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
YC against Jordie for me and the thousands in attendance
Oh come on.
So please explain why you and the ref thought otherwise
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@dan54 said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
I wouldn't mind seeing Tupaea/ALB midfield combo, as much as I like Havili, I not sure we not missing something there.
If we try the Tupaea/ALB midfield combo how many games do we give Tupaea to settle in? And it doesn't work out (i.e. QT has one bad game), who do we try out then?
At what stage do we say "Hey, we've tried about 11-12 combinations over the last 6 years and none of them have been instant successes so perhaps we need to allow players to settle in?
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With all due respect to NH posters, it’s the same crap every single time we tour up here snd this fan has zero interest in any ref shrieking, bad call whinging, post match ref analysis etc etc.
If you are dominating and going forwards, you get the calls.
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@mikethesnow As the ref stated, the Welsh 11 never had a realistic chance of going for the ball. In effect, his action was to prevent Barrett from being able to make an attempt by jumping into him and taking him out, without realistically contesting possession. He had overrun the ball.
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The better team won - predictably, comfortably - whilst rarely getting out of 3rd gear.
Wales tired in the last 20 through their own doing.
Poor accuracy going forward and shit kicking handing the ABs both possession and field position time and time again.
Out lineout was pathetic, and has been for what appears to be decades.
But all that said it was magic to be singing and shouting your lungs out watching the best team in the world.
A couple of those tries were sublime and more than worth the entrance fee.
The atmosphere was electric.
Brilliant effort from all at the Stadium.
Slick, like clockwork (maybe not the bars).
17 mins walk from my front door to my seat.
Post-match hanging about pitchside was great.
Good chats with your supporters,
Great to be back.
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@mikethesnow said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@tim said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@mikethesnow said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
YC against Jordie for me and the thousands in attendance
Oh come on.
So please explain why you and the ref thought otherwise
The rationale was that Adams had gone past the ball and was not in a position to catch it, whereas Barrett was running on to the ball and was in a position to catch it. IMO that rationale stands up
Worst decision for me was no yellow for the other Barrett’s deliberate knock on. Can understand the no penalty try but not to card him was spineless.
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@tim said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@mikethesnow As the ref stated, the Welsh 11 never had a realistic chance of going for the ball. In effect, his action was to prevent Barrett from being able to make an attempt by jumping into him and taking him out, without realistically contesting possession. He had overrun the ball.
Thanks
Will watch it back
That wasn’t communicated to us live
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@mikethesnow said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@tim said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
Penalty in the air against Welsh 11 was fine.
Please explain
Because in real time and the limited replays it appeared that Adams was in the air and Jordie was on the ground and at the last moment Jordie left the ground and clattered into Adams preventing him from catching the ball.
YC against Jordie for me and the thousands in attendance
Looked to me like he moved past the ball then turned back to catch it and JB's eyes never left the ball. I will have to have another gander.
oh snap, yes I think the ref or TJ - no I think the ref- said that. -
@catogrande said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@mikethesnow said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@tim said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@mikethesnow said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
YC against Jordie for me and the thousands in attendance
Oh come on.
So please explain why you and the ref thought otherwise
The rationale was that Adams had gone past the ball and was not in a position to catch it, whereas Barrett was running on to the ball and was in a position to catch it. IMO that rationale stands up
Worst decision for me was no yellow for the other Barrett’s deliberate knock on. Can understand the no penalty try but not to card him was spineless.
You can't card the MOTM on his 100th game! Or we won't get that Clint Eastwood contract..
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@catogrande said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@mikethesnow said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@tim said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@mikethesnow said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
YC against Jordie for me and the thousands in attendance
Oh come on.
So please explain why you and the ref thought otherwise
The rationale was that Adams had gone past the ball and was not in a position to catch it, whereas Barrett was running on to the ball and was in a position to catch it. IMO that rationale stands up
Worst decision for me was no yellow for the other Barrett’s deliberate knock on. Can understand the no penalty try but not to card him was spineless.
Sort of agree, but he scored two trys from doing the same thing and almost did it again there. Wasn’t a slap down.
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@catogrande said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@mikethesnow said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@tim said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@mikethesnow said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
YC against Jordie for me and the thousands in attendance
Oh come on.
So please explain why you and the ref thought otherwise
The rationale was that Adams had gone past the ball and was not in a position to catch it, whereas Barrett was running on to the ball and was in a position to catch it. IMO that rationale stands up
Worst decision for me was no yellow for the other Barrett’s deliberate knock on.
Look at the replay, immediately he knew he didn't have it, he looked at his hand like it let him down. On form, BB is a tinarse, if you look at the way he plays, he was probably trying to catch it.
But he did look very worried after it dawned on him a card was in the offering. -
@mikethesnow said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@tim said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
Penalty in the air against Welsh 11 was fine.
Please explain
Because in real time and the limited replays it appeared that Adams was in the air and Jordie was on the ground and at the last moment Jordie left the ground and clattered into Adams preventing him from catching the ball.
YC against Jordie for me and the thousands in attendance
Doesn't mean you're right.
Ref team penalised the dirty cheating Taff for running past the ball with no intention of catching the ball, clattering into Jordie like the stinking thug he was. Ha.
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@mikethesnow said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@toddy said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@tim said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
After reading comments, I would've thought that the AB forwards smashed Wales, but they did not.
Fairly average 40 minutes of rugby against Wales B. Beauden Barrett good, Savea fringe running very good (great tactic against rush defence), Whitelock very good, Papalii good.
ABs very lucky not to concede three cards. Barrett for the knock down, and Blackadder's shoulder charge (tucked his arm, contact shoulder on shoulder). The Welsh player led with his head, and tucked it, but we were lucky there.
Yeah, was wondering at the time if we were going to see a red for Laulala and a yellow for Blackadder. Shit technique from both of them that could have cost us with a different ref.
That was my take on events, possibly two YC because Blackadder’s illegal hit sent Moriarity lower.
So mitigating factor for red.
But first point of contact was shoulder to head, which I’ve seen plenty given straight red.
Oh puhleese Mike. Put the eye patch away. Barely yellow on Laulala.
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@majorrage said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
With all due respect to NH posters, it’s the same crap every single time we tour up here snd this fan has zero interest in any ref shrieking, bad call whinging, post match ref analysis etc etc.
If you are dominating and going forwards, you get the calls.
End.
Simples.
We controls the World Rugbys.
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@catogrande said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@mikethesnow said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@tim said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@mikethesnow said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
YC against Jordie for me and the thousands in attendance
Oh come on.
So please explain why you and the ref thought otherwise
The rationale was that Adams had gone past the ball and was not in a position to catch it, whereas Barrett was running on to the ball and was in a position to catch it. IMO that rationale stands up
Worst decision for me was no yellow for the other Barrett’s deliberate knock on. Can understand the no penalty try but not to card him was spineless.
Kinda agree
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@kirwan said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@catogrande said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@mikethesnow said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@tim said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@mikethesnow said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
YC against Jordie for me and the thousands in attendance
Oh come on.
So please explain why you and the ref thought otherwise
The rationale was that Adams had gone past the ball and was not in a position to catch it, whereas Barrett was running on to the ball and was in a position to catch it. IMO that rationale stands up
Worst decision for me was no yellow for the other Barrett’s deliberate knock on. Can understand the no penalty try but not to card him was spineless.
Sort of agree, but he scored two trys from doing the same thing and almost did it again there. Wasn’t a slap down.
Forward
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I've changed opinion so often thi season that I'm now an honorary member of the NZ Schizophrenia Society, but for Ireland my backline would
- Weber
- Mounga
- Reece
- ALB
- Ioane
- Jordan
- J Barrett
TJP, Tupaea, Barrett or DMac
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Without a doubt the ref favoured the ABs. It wasn't a shocking performance, and didn't affect the outcome if the game, but we got the rub of the green over the course of the 80 minutes. That's rugby though, it's impossible for a ref to be perfectly even throughout the game, teams just have to be mentally strong enough to stick to their game and not let decisions that go against them throw them off.
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@nostrildamus said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@canefan said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
I didn't read the game thread in real time. But post game I haven't really heard much talk about the ref. As it should be. I thought he had a decent game, of course the attitude of both teams probably made his day easier
Give it a few hours for the Welsh to wake up!
Read this then
'My God!' The unheard Wales v New Zealand conversations as furious Wales players lost it with officials | Wales Online
Wales were beaten by the All Blacks once again as the 68-year gets a little longer
