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    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

    I’m a bit slow to pick up the news that CC did his hammy last night so I guess Reece will start.
    I really don’t know who our 4th winger is although Goodhue on the bench could allow RI to cover wing.

    Ennor could be fourth wing.

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    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

    I’m a bit slow to pick up the news that CC did his hammy last night so I guess Reece will start.
    I really don’t know who our 4th winger is although Goodhue on the bench could allow RI to cover wing.

    Ennor could be fourth wing.

    Hell no.

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    He's a good defender, big, dependable under the high ball and is reasonably quick. Could do much worse.

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    @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

    First test for Ireland:

    Smith, Beauden, Reece, Goodhue, Ioane, Jordan Jordie.

    That's what I think it will be as well if Foster is happy that Goodhue is match-fit. If, not then QT.

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    @Gunner said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

    First test for Ireland:

    Smith, Beauden, Reece, Goodhue, Ioane, Jordan Jordie.

    I think this it what they’ll pick, but I’d prefer Clarke in 11.
    In reality any of the 3 wingers could be picked and I don’t think there would be too many grizzles around the place.

    We seem to be blessed with wingers ATM. Someone like Mark Telea wouldn't be out of place in any Test squad.

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    @nzzp said in All Blacks 2022:

    RI is ridiculously young for a bloke with his pedigree.

    He is also becoming a really mature player for his age as well.

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    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

    I’m a bit slow to pick up the news that CC did his hammy last night so I guess Reece will start.
    I really don’t know who our 4th winger is although Goodhue on the bench could allow RI to cover wing.

    Ennor could be fourth wing.

    Isn't Bridge more experienced? 🎣

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

    I’m a bit slow to pick up the news that CC did his hammy last night so I guess Reece will start.
    I really don’t know who our 4th winger is although Goodhue on the bench could allow RI to cover wing.

    Ennor could be fourth wing.

    Isn't Bridge more experienced? 🎣

    Well suited to Classic All Blacks.

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    @pakman said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

    I’m a bit slow to pick up the news that CC did his hammy last night so I guess Reece will start.
    I really don’t know who our 4th winger is although Goodhue on the bench could allow RI to cover wing.

    Ennor could be fourth wing.

    Isn't Bridge more experienced? 🎣

    Well suited to Classic All Blacks.

    hee haw

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    @Victor-Meldrew George Bridge not really suited to much at all.

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    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2022:

    He's a good defender, big, dependable under the high ball and is reasonably quick. Could do much worse.

    Isn’t Ennor too small according to fern logic ? 90 odd kg vs 100 when he marked Ioane ?

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    @number9 said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Victor-Meldrew George Bridge not really suited to much at all.

    Not true. He’d be a fantastic water boy. That job suits someone with a no frills straight running style

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    I'd also add that the EOYT tours are no longer an opportunity for us to "blood new players" given the way we got smacked last time we were up there. The home tests, which we are far more likely to win, are the perfect opportunity, and the coaches would be idiots not to bring players like RTS who is already a proven world class athlete into the squad.

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    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

    I think that Reece makes a better impact player than Clarke. He is busier and just what is needed to spot opportunities against tiring opposition

    If we have JB at 2nd 5 and Jordan at fullback you can have Reece and Clarke on the wings.

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    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

    I think that Reece makes a better impact player than Clarke. He is busier and just what is needed to spot opportunities against tiring opposition

    If we have JB at 2nd 5 and Jordan at fullback you can have Reece and Clarke on the wings.

    And, looking to next year ALB off the bench.

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    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

    I think that Reece makes a better impact player than Clarke. He is busier and just what is needed to spot opportunities against tiring opposition

    If we have JB at 2nd 5 and Jordan at fullback you can have Reece and Clarke on the wings.

    And your back three reserve is......?
    Are we going back to BB at fullback 60 minutes in?

    All moot anyway if rumours that Clarke is out for a while.

    FFS we may end up with Bridge again.

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    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

    I think that Reece makes a better impact player than Clarke. He is busier and just what is needed to spot opportunities against tiring opposition

    If we have JB at 2nd 5 and Jordan at fullback you can have Reece and Clarke on the wings.

    I'm not super enthused by that back three. Jordie brings a level of safety under the high ball and defence that I don't think you quite get with Jordan. Jordie, Jordan + [Clarke/Reece/Faainganuku etc] looks a lot more assured as a trio.

    I've been super impressed with RTS, he's clearly a leader and someone who thrives with responsibility, which is a really important attribute for me at test level. So he's ahead of Tupaea IMO. Tough on Quinn but he'll be in the mix.

    I don't have a problem with throwing RTS into it straight away. He's going to be surrounded by experience, familiar faces and it's not like he is lacking big match temperament. I'm unsure about his boot but luckily we have a fullback who can occasionally and seamlessly slot into 12.

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    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2022:

    and the coaches would be idiots not to bring players like RTS who is already a proven world class athlete into the squad.

    Genuine question here: How many games of top class Union has he played?

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    @Frye said in All Blacks 2022:

    I don't have a problem with throwing RTS into it straight away. He's going to be surrounded by experience, familiar faces and it's not like he is lacking big match temperament.

    It's a huge risk against an Irish team which has Henshaw and Aki in midfield.

    They are both surrounded by, and have way more experience at Test level and have actually proven their big match temperament in numerous Tests in RU. No matter how much temperament, familiarity and experience he has around him, Ireland will target RTS's inexperience and that will increase pressure on the players around him.

    And - serious question - what do you think Foster should do if that risk doesn't come off and his lack of experience is brutally exposed? Do we toss him aside like Henry Paul or carry on with him being a known weak link until he gains enough experience?

    He's a talent which needs to be nurtured carefully and not just thrown in at the deep end.

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Frye said in All Blacks 2022:

    I don't have a problem with throwing RTS into it straight away. He's going to be surrounded by experience, familiar faces and it's not like he is lacking big match temperament.

    It's a huge risk against an Irish team which has Henshaw and Aki in midfield.

    They are both surrounded by, and have way more experience at Test level and have actually proven their big match temperament in numerous Tests in RU. No matter how much temperament, familiarity and experience he has around him, Ireland will target RTS's inexperience and that will increase pressure on the players around him.

    And - serious question - what do you think Foster should do if that risk doesn't come off and his lack of experience is brutally exposed? Do we toss him aside like Henry Paul or carry on with him being a known weak link until he gains enough experience?

    He's a talent which needs to be nurtured carefully and not just thrown in at the deep end.

    I think the Irish midfield will be ringrose then one of aki or henshaw. Personally I rate henshaw higher but aki seems to be ahead in the pecking order.

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