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    @nzzp no, i mean the comment seemed fair, teams spending 3/4 of the season playing under one interpretation and the 1/4 under another causes problems

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    From just a quick look the French have only played 6 matches this year 2 against Italy and 2 against Japan.. yeah great graph

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    @bayimports surely they played the 6N too so thats another 5 games

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    More weak leadership from WR for failing to give refs guidelines as to how they should be reffing the game

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    replied to Kiwiwomble on last edited by bayimports
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    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:

    @bayimports surely they played the 6N too so thats another 5 games

    I was expecting that, but not according to world rugby.. (filter on France and 15s only and mens results)

    worldrugby.org

    Fixtures and Results | World Rugby

    Fixtures and Results | World Rugby

    All the latest rugby fixtures, scores and results for men's and women's 15s and Sevens international matches and tournaments worldwide, with team line-up, player scoring information and where to watch live rugby.

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    replied to bayimports on last edited by Kiwiwomble
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    @bayimports but...we know they played in the 6N so something is obviously wrong with that, just google gives more believable results

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    @Kiwiwomble yep was looking for it, appears website playing up.. changed website and there it is..I was beginning to think it didnt happen lol even though I watch some games..

    thanks for finding it i was going mad

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    @bayimports said in All Blacks 2022:

    From just a quick look the French have only played 6 matches this year 2 against Italy and 2 against Japan.. yeah great graph

    Two against Italy ????
    So far this year, France have played the 6N (5 games), 2 games in June against Japan, 1 against Australia and 1 against South Africa.

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    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:

    @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks 2022:

    @pakman said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks 2022:

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    Southern Hemsiphere teams and Northern Hemisphere refs aren't a happy combo.

    Interesting analysis

    you dont think its fair? the NH and SH definitely seem to interpret the rules differently

    Get NH refs for Super rugby and things would come right pretty quickly.

    And NH TEAMS might see an upturn.

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    replied to Kiwiwomble on last edited by
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    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:

    @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks 2022:

    @pakman said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks 2022:

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    Southern Hemsiphere teams and Northern Hemisphere refs aren't a happy combo.

    Interesting analysis

    you dont think its fair? the NH and SH definitely seem to interpret the rules differently

    Without the breakdown of whether a NH or SH was reffing a particular match it's impossible to determine that

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    Now that the tour is over, here are a few lessons learned :

    De Groot and Lomax are certainties. They are the best props in NZ by a country mile.
    Dalton P is clearly the best openside. Will Cane return as captain ?
    Retallick and SW are still faring very well. Their first half against England was sublime. Let's hope one additional year will not be to heavy to bear.
    If Jordie stays in midfield, then Foster will have to look for a fullback : Jordan ? Love ? Stevenson ? Sullivan ? BB has lost his pace and his confidence.
    The defence still needs a lot of work while the attack relies too much on individual feats. Cross kicks look like the answer to the rush defence but their systematic use is a worry as variations are asking more questions to the opponents.

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    @cgrant I'd add that Laulala is a waste of space in the squad unless there's injuries. I really don't understand the point of him. Supposedly a good scrummager, but I don't expect a good scrummager to give away more penalties than a lesser scrummager.

    We are also in dire need of proven coaches in:
    Defence
    Skills
    Field kicking

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    All the AB props missed some key tackles today. I would hope that this was Laulala's last chance to prove he is good enough at this level. That was answered in the negative.

    de Groot still needs to work on his fitness as he is very slow off the ground, but he is a keeper. Time to get rid of the old guard.

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    @Bovidae I liked Groot shaping up to Genge at the first possible opportunity.

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    @Bovidae
    Yes, he has fitness issues but I like his attitude and mindset.

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    I didn't follow the thread or get to see the game but the comments don't seem too angry or upset? So was it good in retrospect to evaluate pros and cons of the current team?
    But the way England came back seems very AB-like.
    Perhaps they were quite fit or the bench far superior (or the AB bench the converse?)

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    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2022:

    I didn't follow the thread or get to see the game but the comments don't seem too angry or upset? So was it good in retrospect to evaluate pros and cons of the current team?
    But the way England came back seems very AB-like.
    Perhaps they were quite fit or the bench far superior (or the AB bench the converse?)

    It has been a problem this last 2 seasons poor finishes to games in the last 20min.
    Need to sort that come WC playoff time, does it point to the bench being wrongly selected at times I think so.

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    replied to Chris on last edited by
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    @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2022:

    I didn't follow the thread or get to see the game but the comments don't seem too angry or upset? So was it good in retrospect to evaluate pros and cons of the current team?
    But the way England came back seems very AB-like.
    Perhaps they were quite fit or the bench far superior (or the AB bench the converse?)

    It has been a problem this last 2 seasons poor finishes to games in the last 20min.
    Need to sort that come WC playoff time, does it point to the bench being wrongly selected at times I think so.

    And a lack of game management from our tens, and in this case TJ.

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    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2022:

    But the way England came back seems very AB-like.
    Perhaps they were quite fit or the bench far superior (or the AB bench the converse?)

    I reckon you could characterize it as Chiefs-like. Those feckers are masters at it!

    In the past decade I've watched a heap of games where one team has been comfortably dominating and then in the last 15 minutes the opposition has thrown caution to the wind, run from everywhere, and finished over the top.

    The most egregious example was probably Auckland finishing over the top of Otago - scoring two tries in the last 2 minutes and extending some massive record of losing.

    It's pretty disconcerting to see the ABs succumb to this, but I guess we've inflicted it a few times.

    Somehow, you've GOT to force an error!!!

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    Unbeaten in the NH tour but ... A very poor performance against Japan, followed by a convincing win against Wales (but the Taffies are really weak these days), then by another poor display for most of the game against Scotland. I don’t know which qualitative note to attribute to the New Zealand performance of this weekend. Good to very good for the forwards, average to bad for the game management.

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