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    @Nevorian said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    What is our record at Westpac?

    Crap

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    @Nevorian said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    What is our record at Westpac?

    Last 6 are draws or losses? Sky stadium, says it all

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    @Damo said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    I turned the TV off. For those still watching - can anyone tell me if Foster has done the decent thing and resigned yet?

    Not interviewed yet.

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    @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    No. Same scenario as Hadley Parkes

    Hadleigh Parkes didn't suit NZ rugby style.

    Aki was very effective for the Chiefs and should have made the ABs in 2013

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    @Nevorian said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    What is our record at Westpac?

    Bloody Shit. Should never have moved from Athletic Park

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    @Machpants said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    Picked Ireland England SA today. Sadly ⅓ so far.

    I'm one from 4, England, SA, Scotland next

    Yep, once again, not just the loss. It's the lack of anything coherent as a team that makes it so annoying. You can see we have some stellar individuals (among with some dead weight that needs to be dropped, cane, Taylor, etc) so it's totally a coaching issue

    Its that and more. The players who make mistakes and don’t make passes when they should - they are not coaching issues. The ability to take your chances at this level is huge.

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    @Damo hopefully they hang on to him until the Bledisloe.

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    That was ominously similar to the defeat in Paris.

    Shithouse first half.

    Minutes 40-60 went up the middle direct.

    Minutes 60-80 faded.

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    @stodders said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    Lost home series to Ireland - check

    What's else could this season hold...

    Lose both tests in SA
    Lose Bledisloe
    Lose to Scotland on EOYT
    Lose to Wales on EOYT

    That's the trajectory NZ are on right now. There is no fear. Opponents sense blood in the water. They know NZ have the capability of scoring something out of nothing, but so do Fiji!

    Lose at Eden Park?

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    @Derpus said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    @Damo hopefully they hang on to him until the Bledisloe.

    They will.

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    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    That was ominously similar to the defeat in Paris.

    Shithouse first half.

    Minutes 40-60 went up the middle direct.

    Minutes 60-80 faded.

    So lessons weren't learned then 😉

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    @Nevorian said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    @stodders said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    Lost home series to Ireland - check

    What's else could this season hold...

    Lose both tests in SA
    Lose Bledisloe
    Lose to Scotland on EOYT
    Lose to Wales on EOYT

    That's the trajectory NZ are on right now. There is no fear. Opponents sense blood in the water. They know NZ have the capability of scoring something out of nothing, but so do Fiji!

    Lose at Eden Park?

    😳

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    Should never play anywhere other than the Garden

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    @Derpus said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    @Damo hopefully they hang on to him until the Bledisloe.

    I think a two out of two game loss in SA (almost guaranteed) will not see him go. But a two of two lots and the bled gone will be enough. So you're in with a changed to get the bled back and finish off foster

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    @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    @Damo said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    I turned the TV off. For those still watching - can anyone tell me if Foster has done the decent thing and resigned yet?

    Not interviewed yet.

    First question at the press conference is surely

    "Just a question around timing. Will you resign now or are you going to give it a few days and resign next week".

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    @Damo said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    @Damo said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    I turned the TV off. For those still watching - can anyone tell me if Foster has done the decent thing and resigned yet?

    Not interviewed yet.

    First question at the press conference is surely

    "Just a question around timing. Will you resign now or are you going to give it a few days and resign next week".

    He'll never resign, it'll all be about learnings, and excitement, and how much Ireland have improved

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    @Damo said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    @Damo said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    I turned the TV off. For those still watching - can anyone tell me if Foster has done the decent thing and resigned yet?

    Not interviewed yet.

    First question at the press conference is surely

    "Just a question around timing. Will you resign now or are you going to give it a few days and resign next week".

    He has to go. The only decent thing he can do. If Foster stays we are in for a very bad few years.

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    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    @Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    @Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    Razor will sort that out.

    Changing culture doesn't come from the top - it has to come from the players themselves.

    It does when they are dropped.

    Just dropping players won't improve the culture - unless you want one of fear which never works.

    You are massively underestimating the influence the coach has on the culture. A new leader in any organisation can have a huge effect on employees with the right leadership. It's just abundantly clear Foster doesn't foster a culture of excellence (sorry had to with the pun)

    Not really. He can lead and identify the change needed, but that will only work if the players are on board so the culture change comes from the bottom up.

    Threatening players with being dropped if they don't conform (which @Frank suggested) almost always has the opposite effect.

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    Ireland tonight reminded me of a team I used to know.

    Stoked for them

    Completely destroyed us

    Reiko Ionie is a poke centre.

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    @LABCAT said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    Two questions:

    1. why didn't the AB's take the three towards the end? This is test match rugby not super rugby!

    2. would Aki be AB's 12 now if he had stayed in NZ?

    1. Attempt to heap pressure on Ireland
    2. Probably not. I had a gripe that we don’t invest long term in guys like him but we can’t. Money talks.
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