Future Locks after RWC???
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So the latest hot take here is that while we were losing against top tier opposition, we should've been trying out unproven and inexperienced players?
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@antipodean said in Future Locks after RWC???:
So the latest hot take here is that while we were losing against top tier opposition, we should've been trying out unproven and inexperienced players?
I think there is some room for the argument that some players like Whitelock look tired and others maybe should be rotated to safeguard against surprise injury...
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@antipodean well we are losing. What’s the risk? Unless 2 in a row is a AB success story
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@broughie said in Future Locks after RWC???:
@antipodean well we are losing. What’s the risk? Unless 2 in a row is a AB success story
That's some genius hindsight; we lost so should've played inexperienced players so they too can get experience losing.
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@broughie said in Future Locks after RWC???:
@antipodean well we are losing. What’s the risk? Unless 2 in a row is a AB success story
The ABs don’t do rebuilds. We are only ever a match away from winning
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@antipodean or genius insight that we lost so we should keep playing the same horses. And some changes we have made recently, including a coach, have been helpful. Thanks @tim.
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@Tim said in Future Locks after RWC???:
I think it's worth noting that taking a risk, and moving to a much less experienced frontrow, is what led to our improvement after the Irish series debacle.
With the benefit of injury and selecting what were clearly in form players like Samisoni. The same can't be said for any of the locks in question.
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@antipodean said in Future Locks after RWC???:
So the latest hot take here is that while we were losing against top tier opposition, we should've been trying out unproven and inexperienced players?
I don't think we necessarily should have been. It's recognising that we haven't been doing it - largely because of the poor coaching and current crop of players that are not as good as previous squads.
In an ideal world, yes - we bring on people off the bench to get game time. I'm sure I saw a stat that we haven't been blooding as many new players as usual in this cycle (or compared to others). If we get an injury or two it's going to be massively disruptive, with players coming in who haven't played.
This is not a great AB team, and you can tell the dirty provincial bias and screaming for differnet selections coming out on the back of it. Swapping one player with weaknesses for another doesn't fix the deeper issues; we're not prepping players for Test rugby in Super, our coaching isn't great, and the current crop isn't packed full of worldbeaters (like we have been used to).
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@Kiwiwomble born in Perth.
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@Bones yeah, i was conceding that, just adding he did grow up in NZ and go to school in NZ so not like he rocked up for the NPC or something
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@Kiwiwomble said in Future Locks after RWC???:
@Bones yeah, i was conceding that, just adding he did grow up in NZ and go to school in NZ so not like he rocked up for the NPC or something
My original comment may have been tongue in cheek... for a change...
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@broughie said in Future Locks after RWC???:
@Victor-Meldrew But he created the position he is in by his ineptitude as a coach. I am not sure why your continue to stick up for this guy just because he is what we have.
I'm not sticking up for anyone - just calling the situation as I see it re the Lock situation and lack of game time & injuries.
His focus should have been on blooding the next batch of players.
Ahead of winning? Really?
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Future Locks after RWC???:
Ahead of winning? Really?
What are we this year, 4 from 8? 4 from our last 10?
You could argue that they have gone with the status quo ahead of winning...
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@taniwharugby 3 wins from 4 since the change of 1st 5 and the return of Retallick
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@ACT-Crusader well I'm usually an optimist too...but the last 12 months have done strange things
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@taniwharugby said in Future Locks after RWC???:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Future Locks after RWC???:
Ahead of winning? Really?
What are we this year, 4 from 8? 4 from our last 10?
As you are suggesting, winning is key thing.
You could argue that they have gone with the status quo ahead of winning...
I think they've gone for the best team available to get a win and haven't had the relative luxury of giving experience to new players. That's down to injuries & ineptitude on and off the field.
There's also an argument that Foster & co. shouldn't give a stuff about the Eden Park record as we have the Bledisloe, and throw Vaa'i, Christie, Paps & Akira etc, in the starting XV to give them game time and see how they go.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Future Locks after RWC???:
I think they've gone for the best team available to get a win
Codie Taylor thanks you.
Jordie on the wing thanks you too.
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@Nepia said in Future Locks after RWC???:
PPP getting no love in the thread but I think pre injury he was starting to play to match his size.
Also, on Vai'i, he's been fairly good in most of his matches for the ABs. He's just behind the two greats and Scooter in the pecking order.
I also can't see Dickson leap frogging Lord in the coaches rankings. They clearly rate him highly.
I mentioned him but got shot down
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@MN5 said in Future Locks after RWC???:
@Nepia said in Future Locks after RWC???:
PPP getting no love in the thread but I think pre injury he was starting to play to match his size.
Also, on Vai'i, he's been fairly good in most of his matches for the ABs. He's just behind the two greats and Scooter in the pecking order.
I also can't see Dickson leap frogging Lord in the coaches rankings. They clearly rate him highly.
I mentioned him but got shot down
It is so hard to defend triple alliteration on here.
Plus he interviews like someone still concussed from fight club
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