QF - Canterbury vs Northland
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Just a little nervous about this one. Has a bit of a banana skin to it with the way the Taniwha play. Been impressed with them this season. Well coached side.
I’ll be interested in what backline we start with.
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@ACT-Crusader said in QF - Canterbury vs Northland:
Just a little nervous about this one. Has a bit of a banana skin to it with the way the Taniwha play. Been impressed with them this season. Well coached side.
I’ll be interested in what backline we start with.
Drummond
Burke
Bridge
Poihipi
Ennor
Matale
FihakiNewell available as well.
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@ACT-Crusader said in QF - Canterbury vs Northland:
Just a little nervous about this one. Has a bit of a banana skin to it with the way the Taniwha play. Been impressed with them this season. Well coached side.
I’ll be interested in what backline we start with.
In some respects like the scrum maybe but overall I think the coaching has been a bit of a handbrake for Northland this year. Selections and tactics have often been questionable. Whilst our intent on defence has been much better we're still defending far too Narrow which has been a problem the last few years as well.
If Northland are to hve any chance in this game they will have to drastically cut down on their error rate. I'm giving us a chance but definitely underdogs.
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@Chiefy07 when we are in sync, we look "reasonably" well coached, unfortunately the latter part of the season we've fallen back to our 2021 game of, well fuck knows what the plan was, the strong defence from early season gone too.
Our attack is pretty poor this season though, we have the 2nd= worst in the comp with Manawatu, only Taranaki have been worse, sure we have scored some excellent tries, but we have generally struggled to break down defences, even when we spend long patches in the opposition 22.
It's sport, so there is always a shot, but it is a very long shot, and Canterbury paying 1.12 for a reason.
I just want us to put in a decent performance, not fall off after 40 like we did earlier in the season.
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If we can shut down Canterbury’s ability to keep the ball alive through endless offloading I would give us a slither of hope. We’ve always struggled with teams offloading game in broken play, and Canterbury are very good at that. Those inside balls in close channels are always a worry and we seem to get skinned time and time again.. even Manawatu exploited that twice on the weekend.
Wouldn’t like to place too much money on this one, but we are definitely the sort of team who can surprise the more fancied sides, as we have shown already this year.
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Northland v Canterbury NPC results
The last Northland win was back in 1999. Final score was 27-20
I remember two things about this game. The Northland pack put on a great performance particularly in the mauls. Glenn Taylor dominated Blackadder
Managed to find the try scorers and the team lists (missing one Cantab reserve)
Hayden Taylor, Mark Subritzky, Norm Berryman, Robbie Johnson, Dan Parkinson, Jared Going, Joggie Viljoen, Matthew Webber, Alan Tubbs, Vula Maimuri, Glenn Taylor, Geoff Crawford, Tim Knight, Jason Hammond , Nick White
Reserves: Joe Ross, Mike Storey, Murray Dyer, Tim Henwood, Tim Kareko, Tony Monaghan, Jason HitaBen Blair, Daryl Lilley, Mark Robinson, Mark Mayerhofler, James Kerr, Leon Macdonald, Ben Hurst, Steve Surridge, Angus Gardiner, Clark McLeod, Todd Blackadder, Steven Lancaster, Dave Hewett, Matt Sexton, Con Barrell
Reserves: Sean Cuttance, Greg Somerville , Chris Jack, Johnny Leo'o, Aaron Flynn, Aaron Mauger, AN Other27-20
Northland Tries: Berryman, Parkinson, Taylor, White
Cantab Tries: Kerr, Hurst, McLeod -
@Duluth Correct me if I'm wrong but did Nick White nail a conversion from the sideline that night?
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@African-Monkey pretty sure he did...although TBF he used to play 1st 5 when we played many years prior....
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@Duluth said in QF - Canterbury vs Northland:
Northland v Canterbury NPC results
The last Northland win was back in 1999. Final score was 27-20
I remember two things about this game. The Northland pack put on a great performance particularly in the mauls. Glenn Taylor dominated Blackadder
Managed to find the try scorers and the team lists (missing one Cantab reserve)
Hayden Taylor, Mark Subritzky, Norm Berryman, Robbie Johnson, Dan Parkinson, Jared Going, Joggie Viljoen, Matthew Webber, Alan Tubbs, Vula Maimuri, Glenn Taylor, Geoff Crawford, Tim Knight, Jason Hammond , Nick White
Reserves: Joe Ross, Mike Storey, Murray Dyer, Tim Henwood, Tim Kareko, Tony Monaghan, Jason HitaBen Blair, Daryl Lilley, Mark Robinson, Mark Mayerhofler, James Kerr, Leon Macdonald, Ben Hurst, Steve Surridge, Angus Gardiner, Clark McLeod, Todd Blackadder, Steven Lancaster, Dave Hewett, Matt Sexton, Con Barrell
Reserves: Sean Cuttance, Greg Somerville , Chris Jack, Johnny Leo'o, Aaron Flynn, Aaron Mauger, AN Other27-20
Northland Tries: Berryman, Parkinson, Taylor, White
Cantab Tries: Kerr, Hurst, McLeodNoticed the obligatory Going in that Northland team. Wonder if we will ever see another Going reach the ABs? Apart from the original Going brothers has there been another? I suppose Todd Miller, but he wasn't a Going.
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@Crazy-Horse said in QF - Canterbury vs Northland:
I suppose Todd Miller, but he wasn't a Going
while i know what you mean, for some reason that sentence cracked me up
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@mariner4life said in QF - Canterbury vs Northland:
@Crazy-Horse said in QF - Canterbury vs Northland:
I suppose Todd Miller, but he wasn't a Going
while i know what you mean, for some reason that sentence cracked me up
Yeah, I thought it 'sounded' a bit funny when I wrote it.
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@Crazy-Horse said in QF - Canterbury vs Northland:
Noticed the obligatory Going in that Northland team. Wonder if we will ever see another Going reach the ABs? Apart from the original Going brothers has there been another? I suppose Todd Miller, but he wasn't a Going.
Just the brothers
There's a Going in this years squad (Kalani) but he's at the beginning of his NPC career.
They've produced a decent number of Northland reps over the years. If they keep that up one day one might kick on:
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@Duluth said in QF - Canterbury vs Northland:
Northland v Canterbury NPC results
The last Northland win was back in 1999. Final score was 27-20
I remember two things about this game. The Northland pack put on a great performance particularly in the mauls. Glenn Taylor dominated Blackadder
Managed to find the try scorers and the team lists (missing one Cantab reserve)
Hayden Taylor, Mark Subritzky, Norm Berryman, Robbie Johnson, Dan Parkinson, Jared Going, Joggie Viljoen, Matthew Webber, Alan Tubbs, Vula Maimuri, Glenn Taylor, Geoff Crawford, Tim Knight, Jason Hammond , Nick White
Reserves: Joe Ross, Mike Storey, Murray Dyer, Tim Henwood, Tim Kareko, Tony Monaghan, Jason HitaBen Blair, Daryl Lilley, Mark Robinson, Mark Mayerhofler, James Kerr, Leon Macdonald, Ben Hurst, Steve Surridge, Angus Gardiner, Clark McLeod, Todd Blackadder, Steven Lancaster, Dave Hewett, Matt Sexton, Con Barrell
Reserves: Sean Cuttance, Greg Somerville , Chris Jack, Johnny Leo'o, Aaron Flynn, Aaron Mauger, AN Other27-20
Northland Tries: Berryman, Parkinson, Taylor, White
Cantab Tries: Kerr, Hurst, McLeodI bet Con Barrell copped a bit of verbal at the end...
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@Duluth as well as Todd Miller, his brother Brad, are others related to the Goings too...off the top of my head I believe both Robbie Abel and David Holwell are related, Zion Going is in the dev side too...was a bit of a gap until Kalani made his debut (Jared Going in 2005 to Kalani 2020)
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Vaughan Going played for Waikato, NZ U21s and Hong Kong in the early 1990s. He must be one of the whānau. I don't think he ever played for Northland though.
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Kalani Going should have been a more permanent feature in this years team..enough said due to beating that drum way too much recently!
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@taniwharugby said in QF - Canterbury vs Northland:
@Duluth as well as Todd Miller, his brother Brad, are others related to the Goings too...off the top of my head I believe both Robbie Abel and David Holwell are related, Zion Going is in the dev side too...was a bit of a gap until Kalani made his debut (Jared Going in 2005 to Kalani 2020)
The Abel boys (Robbie and Charles) are related to the Goings through their fathers side.
It’s from 2017 but interesting.
Together, we sketch up a Going family tree. By our count, at least 16 Goings have played rep rugby, and several went on to represent their nation
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Charlie Going was one hell of a presence in the Northland backline in the late 80s and into early 90s I think.
Some unforgettable moments in the match v Australia (think we ended up losing 28-14 but gave them a hell of a shake) in 1990, and he scored a 50 metre solo try v Wales around the same time.
That Australia game was also memorable for an end to end try finished off by Ziggy Seymour on the cutback to score under the posts.
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@Duluth said in QF - Canterbury vs Northland:
Northland v Canterbury NPC results
The last Northland win was back in 1999. Final score was 27-20
I remember two things about this game. The Northland pack put on a great performance particularly in the mauls. Glenn Taylor dominated Blackadder
Managed to find the try scorers and the team lists (missing one Cantab reserve)
Hayden Taylor, Mark Subritzky, Norm Berryman, Robbie Johnson, Dan Parkinson, Jared Going, Joggie Viljoen, Matthew Webber, Alan Tubbs, Vula Maimuri, Glenn Taylor, Geoff Crawford, Tim Knight, Jason Hammond , Nick White
Reserves: Joe Ross, Mike Storey, Murray Dyer, Tim Henwood, Tim Kareko, Tony Monaghan, Jason HitaBen Blair, Daryl Lilley, Mark Robinson, Mark Mayerhofler, James Kerr, Leon Macdonald, Ben Hurst, Steve Surridge, Angus Gardiner, Clark McLeod, Todd Blackadder, Steven Lancaster, Dave Hewett, Matt Sexton, Con Barrell
Reserves: Sean Cuttance, Greg Somerville , Chris Jack, Johnny Leo'o, Aaron Flynn, Aaron Mauger, AN Other27-20
Northland Tries: Berryman, Parkinson, Taylor, White
Cantab Tries: Kerr, Hurst, McLeodThat was a great side for us. Vula Maimuri was fantastic - I think he was in line for ABs at one stage but was injured.
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@J77 said in QF - Canterbury vs Northland:
If we can shut down Canterbury’s ability to keep the ball alive through endless offloading I would give us a slither of hope. We’ve always struggled with teams offloading game in broken play, and Canterbury are very good at that. Those inside balls in close channels are always a worry and we seem to get skinned time and time again.. even Manawatu exploited that twice on the weekend.
Wouldn’t like to place too much money on this one, but we are definitely the sort of team who can surprise the more fancied sides, as we have shown already this year.
In the games where Harbour and Tasman ran at us we struggled. The tighter the better. Liked it last week when we had Tua running at their 1st five, with loose forwards playing off that.
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@kev I reckon this is the side we will run out with (given I havent heard of any new injuries)
Adams, BKP, Ofa
Goodhue, Hallam-Eames
Rush, McNamara, Matich
Nock, Reihana
Hohaia, Tua
Murray, Moorby, MacilaiWright, CTC, Puafisi, Craig/Caird, Mau'u, LMH, Hawkins, Ranger
They may roll Matich at 8 and Mau'u at 7, I doubt LMH will start, but I think I'd prefer he did, and obviously I'd run Going at 12, while I assume they will start Ofa, I believe he is currently in Tonga and due back tomorrow, so may even roll him off the bench, at half time to help us given its the 2nd spell we have dropped off vs the better teams
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I wonder if Tom Robinson will come out of the woodwork for this one?
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@J77 tbh I hope he doesn't, he needs to kick this season and focus on getting himself right.
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Team I have heard:
@taniwharugby said in QF - Canterbury vs Northland:
Adams, BKP, Ofa
Goodhue,Hallam-EamesCaird
Rush,McNamara,Matich, Mau'u
Nock, Reihana
Hohaia, Tua
Murray, Moorby, MacilaiWright, CTC, Puafisi,
Craig/CairdHallam-Eames,Mau'uMcNamara, LMH, Hawkins, Ranger -
That team is confirmed now. It's up on the NPC website
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1 Jarred Adams
2 Bruce Kauika-Petersen
3 Ofa Tu'ungafasi
4 Josh Goodhue
5 Sam Caird
6 Rob Rush
7 Jonah Mau'u
8 Matt Matich
9 Sam Nock
10 Reviz Reihana
11 Heremaia Murray
12 Blake Hohaia
13 Tamati Tua
14 Jone Macilai-Tori
15 Josh Moorby16 Ross Wright
17 Corey Te Whata-Colley
18 Sila Puafisi
19 Liam Hallam-Eames
20 Sam McNamara
21 Lisati Milo-Harris
22 Daniel Hawkins
23 Rene RangerObviously this won't compare well with Canterbury but there's some experience at higher levels there
By my count:
2 All Blacks
15 players with SR experience (sure, some players with only brief experience or with the Sunwolves)Plus Rush has a SR contract next year and guys like Murray are a chance
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@Duluth have to think one of the better sides we have been able name for some time, could be a bit stronger if Jack Goodhue and Tom were available, possibly putting the latter at lock, Apoua into the 23 too...
On thier day I think the 23 named are good enough to beat any of the teams, but doing that in a quarter against this Canterbury side, there is a reason they are paying around 1.10...as above, be happy if we put in a good performance.
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@taniwharugby said in QF - Canterbury vs Northland:
@Duluth have to think one of the better sides we have been able name for some time, could be a bit stronger if Jack Goodhue and Tom were available, possibly putting the latter at lock, Apoua into the 23 too...
On thier day I think the 23 named are good enough to beat any of the teams, but doing that in a quarter against this Canterbury side, there is a reason they are paying around 1.10...as above, be happy if we put in a good performance.
Yeah, a tough disciplined performance is what we want - where we stay in the fight and don’t leak points. Scrum was an issue for us in the 1st game but this pack should be a lot better at that phase.
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@kev yeah adding Ofa to the front row helps (was CTC last time) but last time we started with Hallam-Eames and Craig at lock, and IMO Goodhue is one of the better scrummaging locks running around so that should help us tomorrow.
We also had no Moorby last time we played them, so on paper we are better than that game too,just need to do the business on the grass...
$1.08 vs $7.00 at TAB.
Canterbury $1.42 for 13+ and at better odd paying less than $6 to win by 31-40 than we are just to win.Stats point to a thumping, history also says we lose on average 32-14, and 1987 was our last win down there, when both Rene Ranger and Ross Wright weren't even a year old, while id guess the rest of the squad werent even born....
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For those that prefer pictures
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No Goodhue.. must have pulled up lame the last minute, or saving himself for the semi final? 😛
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@J77 ah shit, didnt even notice that, big blow, although I guess our coaches have been playing him off the bench alot anyway.
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@kev said in QF - Canterbury vs Northland:
Yeah, a tough disciplined performance is what we want - where we stay in the fight and don’t leak points. Scrum was an issue for us in the 1st game but this pack should be a lot better at that phase.
No cards. The YC in the round robin match was the turning point.
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Quarter Final line-up set for Northland encounter — Canterbury Rugby
It’s a case of one step at a time for Canterbury as they get set to take on Northland in Saturday’s Bunnings Warehouse NPC Quarter Final in Christchurch.
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@Duluth thought that Alex Hardford fella would be in the Reserves just incase
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As expected, thats a pretty strong team!
By my count, only 1 who hasnt played super rugby??
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@FakatavaAllBlack said in QF - Canterbury vs Northland:
@Duluth thought that Alex Hardford fella would be in the Reserves just incase
I really hope this Alex Hartfit guy becomes a regular AB. Nobody seems to be able to spell his name. The cries of "dusrespict!" on here will be worth it.
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@taniwharugby said in QF - Canterbury vs Northland:
As expected, thats a pretty strong team!
By my count, only 1 who hasnt played super rugby??
yes Liam Allen, if only they played Romano
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@kiwi_expat didn't Liam Allen have a game off the bench for the crusaders in 2021 ?
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@FakatavaAllBlack said in QF - Canterbury vs Northland:
@kiwi_expat didn't Liam Allen have a game off the bench for the crusaders in 2021 ?
No, a preseason game he had a run off the bench
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