Anybody else get that feeling we were going to capitulate against them again haha

@Siam said in Otago vs Canterbury (RS): 18 year Pffft. Fcking newbies.

A little premature with the previous comment as Counties did somehow manage to score but they only snuck in a couple of minutes before the end. Final score was Canterbury 38 - 05 Counties

@shark said in Canterbury vs Manawatu: @Tim said in Canterbury vs Manawatu: Is Josh McKay the new Michael Collins? More like a faster Damien McKenzie without the positional smarts. How fast is he, he must be a bullet? DMac is quick.

Post match interview with Joe Maddock:

Very late but here are my post match interviews from both the Miter 10 Cup and Farah Palmer Cup games:

Back on track. Although still far from a settled combination. Who's next up?

@shark said in Wellington vs Canterbury: @ACT-Crusader said in Wellington vs Canterbury: There were patches in this game that we probably looked the best we’ve been this season. But credit to Welly for applying scoreboard pressure. Our tight forwards struggling with the pace and our loosies aren’t really impacting at the collisions. Backs are ho-hum. We don’t have any real imagination out there with someone to create with little space. We are relying on good ball to make impact. We’ve at least had game breakers in previous seasons. All bang on. In the loose forwards it all looks good on paper when you can pick Whitelock, Douglas, Prinsep, Harmon and Christie but in reality there are issues. Harmon has guts in droves but he's small, his back up is yet to show anything at this level, Prinsep is no more than a workmanlike journeyman, Douglas isn't having the same impact he's had for the Crusaders and Whitelock is also struggling to assert himself. What we really need in that trio is someone like an Ethan Blackadder to throw himself into the collision and blow over rucks. Is Cullen Grace worth a crack on the blindside? I think the second row is fine with Dunshea back. We're not getting much around the field from our props though which is odd given we can select from a bunch of Super rugby players there too. Enari has been good aside from a propensity to put up ineffective box kicks, and we have Drummond to come back in and share duties as well. Cameron looks like a guy who pulled out one really good season as a relatively unknown quantity, and his midget stature is really starting to hurt him. He's reluctant to challenge the line, probably because he gets tossed around too easily, and it's a pop gun punt he's packing so we struggle to exert field position pressure or clear well. Midfield I've covered. Ennor at 13, Bateman 12 should give us more punch and having Bateman ourside him can only help the dwarf running the cutter. Poihipi offers grunt off the bench. There's pace out wide in McKay, Gilbert and Punivai but the latter needs to back himself more in half gaps, and the former needs to run it up harder from the back. Really lacking depth here though. If only we'd hung onto Alaimalo and/or Will Jordan. yep agree with all of that pretty much how we look in 2019

Big Leicester, David Havili and Will Jordan are an exceptional back three.

@DrivingMaul thanks for all the post match interviews over the 1st round of the Mitre 10 Cup ..very professionally done..

@chchfanatic Gradually turning into some hard facts.

Papali'i yes, but the jury is out on Plummer. He wouldn't be the first Auckland first-five to look good in his first year and then fall away badly.

I had a re-watch yesterday. Pari Pari Parkinson was the best player on the field. Great first half at the lineout and with ball in hand, excellent second half in defense. This guy is more powerful than his lean frame might let it think. Good games from Aumua, Havili, Strange and Makalio as well. Jordan was a bit disappointing but the game did not go his way. Canterbury had less individual brilliance (with the notable exceptions of Drummond and Bridge) but their collective play in the second half was just awsome.

Awesome work Counties. Auckland have a home semi.

@act-crusader with 3 months between the end of super rugby and the game against the boks surely there won’t be stand downs

Just finished watching. That wasn't too bad in the end. I'll echo what others have said about our young guys, as long as we keep them we should do pretty well going forward (maybe the Canes could help out by signing them to keep them in the region - would rather have had Renton come on for us than against us). Damn McClutchie has a touch of the Cruden about him, follow him around enough and he'll put you in gaps. Yellow Card had another decent run and actually held the ball in two hands on lots of occasions. With Buckley on the wing I don't know why Lowe wasn't used in the midfield. @number-10 I heard he got the pip with the HBRU (and how they treated him) when he was injured and has pretty much given the game away.

Tim said: Cracking up at the commentators talking up Canterbury's 3rd choice frontrow today. No one is intimidated by Daniel Lienert-Brown, Brodie McAlister, and Chris King. agree with 2/3 of this, I think McAlistair will turn into a very good player tho. Chris King has always been useless, huge backwards step to bring him back

@canes4life said in Cantebury vs Auckland: @kirwan So pretty much Fatialofa mark 2. Yeah, and would be ironic if we lost two good locks to the Canes. Or absolutely depressing.

There was a great passage of play last night. Canterbury mullered NH in a scrum pushing them back 5m at a rate of knots, but front rows didn't pop. Liava'a miraculously managed to extract the ball from the back and ran it from the base of his backwheeling scrum. Drummond tackled him with a text book tackle and slid down to his ankles. But Liava'a remained on his feet and bunny hopped for about 5m with Drummoned wrapped around his ankles.

@shark there’s plenty of locks around. Will Tucker was NZ20s this year. Antonio Shalfoon is a great prospect at Lincoln. Was injured all year , but killing it now for Canterbury maoris. Don’t know if their FABs though.

It sounds like Canterbury is stunting his development as a player and he should be immediately returned to the Magpies to play out the rest of the season.

Good, albeit scrappy win to get our season going. Phew. They have some holes, but Wellington are a good NPC side and with the cattle missing from 2017, we just needed to get this W no matter how. Away to BOP this week which will be interesting. If Ennor is out, there will be a massive vacancy in this side which we just can't fill adequately with the erosion to our depth since last year. Man for man we should still clean them up, but that'd be what Taranaki fans thought too. At least our guys don't have to travel to that dump Rotorua.

Salmon is a lock for backup tighthead at the Blues?

@bovidae said in Game of 3 halves: All Blacks v Canterbury v Otago: @chris-b Part of the reason for the dropping of Rokocoko and Sivivatu was their vulnerability under the high ball, which was the main SA tactic in 2009-2011. That was more relevant to Rok than Sivi and led to the emergence of Jane, Dagg and then Kahui being selected as a winger at the RWC. His omission can't have been due to any off-field problems either, given the story about Zac in Aust immediately before the RWC. So I can only assume it was because Sivivatu had signalled he was going to France later that year and coin flip didn't go in his favour. But wasn’t there some off field issues nonetheless that may have been a contributing factor?

@family-man said in Canterbury v Tasman - Mitre 10 Cup Premiership Final: @billy-tell said in Canterbury v Tasman - Mitre 10 Cup Premiership Final: Sopoaga will be having nightmares about Mo'unga. Breathing right down his neck for that backup 10 spot at the moment. Not suggesting he should be an AB, and probably doesn't have enough "x-factor" but a more hardworking loose forward than Luke Whitelock is hard to find. Correct whitelock has really impressed me and I personally think with kaino nearing the end whitelock and ioane are the next best 2 I hope he doesn't go overseas just yet. But him and Brad Shields must be attractive targets for overseas clubs. I'm not sure what else Whitelock could do TBH, other than find a bit of x-factor. I thought he was a bit of a donkey when he made that ABs wider training squad a few years back, but his last couple of seasons have been very good.

@rapido said in Canterbury vs. North Harbour: Watched highlights only. My takeaway is gee Hoeata is undisciplined. You seem surprised that a Hoeata is undisciplined ...

@booboo Plummer is 19, and yes, that's 2 Eden players in 2 years that have represented Auckland.

@shark said in Canterbury vs Taranaki (Ranfurly Shield): Some saw the funny side in the responses. I think everyone did!

@reprobate During the live interview with Smithy at end of first half, he responds to a question about the Canterbury attack with something like 'well, they're fucking good'

@act-crusader No doubt he was showing some irresistible form early doors, his form dropping off a cliff was rather disappointing. If he gets that back and is consistent then he won't be able to be ignored. Reminds me of Tom Marshall, just a tad more electric.

Concerning Fidow, this is good news as his scrummaging had always been suspect. He is a formidable player in the loose, very quick for such a big man and hard to stop. A future AB ?

@Gunner said in Canterbury v Counties Manukau (Ranfurly Shield): Those poor Canterbury fans, their team has sapped the excitement out of watching them, they don't even look remotely interested that their team scored their 64th try of the game. It was a great atmosphere at the game for a Wednesday night. We'll never get tired of winning like this

Ennor is a huge talent. Good crowd and a great atmosphere at the ground. Mouaga and Dom bird are superstars at this level. Time to put the "southern man" myth to bed. Southland forwards were weak and pathetic, bunch of Southland supporters sitting next to us drinking cider all night.... blokes like Jason Rutledge and Paul miller would be appalled

Enari was outstanding during the time he spent on the field (about 20 minutes ?). But by then, it was really easy for Canterbury. I was also impressed by the second row combination of Dalzell and Dunshea. Hard and uncompromising. They were dominant throughout.

@taniwharugby Cheers! It didn't show initially, probably due to slow internet connection.

@akan004 said in Tasman vs Canterbury: Dunshea looks really promising. Did he play Super Rugby this year? Yes, for the Saders.

Canterbury 71 (Jack Stratton, Mark Maitland, Dylan Nel, Nick Werahiko 2, Marshall Suckling, Mitch Dunshea, Poasa Waqanibau, Steve Alfeld, Caleb Makene tries; Brett Cameron pen, 7 con, Finn Strawbridge 2 con ) Wanganui 5 (Timoci Seruwalu try) HT: 36-5

I remember watching the news a few weeks back and they mentioned that every NZ Super team was interested in Enari.

Counties have more scum resets than any other Team in the Mitre10 Cup. Their tactic is to spoil the tempo of the opposing team at contact. I don't think that the Counties scrum was as "dominant" as what people make it to be. The difference this week was at the breakdown, where Counties struggled to break through the Canterbury defence. Too put it bluntly the Canterbury Pack "manned up" and Counties folded.