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  • FrankF Offline
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    Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

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    @Chris It will formally be named in December at the ASB Rugby awards, but Hoskins is probably the favourite for it.

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    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

    He’s better than Sititi and that’s who’s rumoured to be in.

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    @MN5 Hoskins Sotutu could well be playing for England or Fiji by the next World Cup and Akira Ioane for Japan. I wouldn't be surprised if Vern Cotter gets an international coach gig as well.

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    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

    But he's currently the next best 8 and has the attributes to play at 6 with coaching.

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    @sparky said in Name Your AB Team:

    @MN5 Hoskins Sotutu could well be playing for England or Fiji by the next World Cup and Akira Ioane for Japan. I wouldn't be surprised if Vern Cotter gets an international coach gig as well.

    That’s a lot of transforming coming up

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  • GrooterG Online
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    @KiwiMurph I'm not sure why Bower would be there, we can carry 5 props as Ofa & Tamaiti cover both sides, definitely think we need 4 locks incase S Barrett or Patrick were to get injured in the lead upto a Test

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  • FrankF Offline
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    replied to Kirwan on last edited by Frank
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    @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

    He’s better than Sititi and that’s who’s rumoured to be in.

    I disagree.
    Sititi is more powerful and direct than Sotutu.
    It appears two different sets of coaching groups don't like him.

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    @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

    less understanding from the rugby public if he's seen to have picked his favourites and ignored form picks

    again, this has always happened, although favorites probably not right, more that the coaches see things a bit different when trying to build thier team.

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    @taniwharugby said in Name Your AB Team:

    @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

    less understanding from the rugby public if he's seen to have picked his favourites and ignored form picks

    again, this has always happened, although favorites probably not right, more that the coaches see things a bit different when trying to build thier team.

    Winning will be the best salve

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  • ChrisC Offline
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    @taniwharugby said in Name Your AB Team:

    @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

    less understanding from the rugby public if he's seen to have picked his favourites and ignored form picks

    again, this has always happened, although favorites probably not right, more that the coaches see things a bit different when trying to build thier team.

    Yep and the coaches know the players a lot better than the public and will think they can get the best out of whoever they select.

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  • KiwiMurphK Offline
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    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

    He’s better than Sititi and that’s who’s rumoured to be in.

    I disagree.
    Sititi is more powerful and direct than Sotutu.
    It appears two different sets of coaching groups don't like him.

    It's the same coach that doesn't like him. Jason Ryan.

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  • BonesB Offline
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    @sparky said in Name Your AB Team:

    Hoskins is probably the favourite for it

    According to who or whom?

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  • FrankF Offline
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    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

    He’s better than Sititi and that’s who’s rumoured to be in.

    I disagree.
    Sititi is more powerful and direct than Sotutu.
    It appears two different sets of coaching groups don't like him.

    It's the same coach that doesn't like him. Jason Ryan.

    Wrong.
    Razor selects the loose forwards.
    Ryan the tight 5.

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  • KiwiMurphK Offline
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    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

    He’s better than Sititi and that’s who’s rumoured to be in.

    I disagree.
    Sititi is more powerful and direct than Sotutu.
    It appears two different sets of coaching groups don't like him.

    It's the same coach that doesn't like him. Jason Ryan.

    Wrong.
    Razor selects the loose forwards.
    Ryan the tight 5.

    OK fine but I wouldn't call Ryan and Razor two sets of coaching groups. Two peas in a pod

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  • KiwiMurphK Offline
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    If the rumoured squad is true it's basically what you would do if you named a squad without having to make a tough decision.

    He refuses to select a 4th lock

    He refuses to drop a winger of the 4

    He refuses to name a captain

    He refuses to drop a high profile Crusader

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  • FrankF Offline
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    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

    He’s better than Sititi and that’s who’s rumoured to be in.

    I disagree.
    Sititi is more powerful and direct than Sotutu.
    It appears two different sets of coaching groups don't like him.

    It's the same coach that doesn't like him. Jason Ryan.

    Wrong.
    Razor selects the loose forwards.
    Ryan the tight 5.

    OK fine but I wouldn't call Ryan and Razor two sets of coaching groups. Two peas in a pod

    Haha "Okay fine"
    Don't let your outrage get in the way of the facts.

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  • KiwiMurphK Offline
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    replied to Frank on last edited by KiwiMurph
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    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

    He’s better than Sititi and that’s who’s rumoured to be in.

    I disagree.
    Sititi is more powerful and direct than Sotutu.
    It appears two different sets of coaching groups don't like him.

    It's the same coach that doesn't like him. Jason Ryan.

    Wrong.
    Razor selects the loose forwards.
    Ryan the tight 5.

    OK fine but I wouldn't call Ryan and Razor two sets of coaching groups. Two peas in a pod

    Haha "Okay fine"
    Don't let your outrage get in the way of the facts.

    Two sets of coaching groups is disingenuous when you are talking about Ryan and Razor - they are nearly joined at the hip

    I'm not outraged by the way - I feel sorry for Sotutu but I can understand the logic of him not being selected.

    Some of the other rumoured selections (Havili and Bell).... not so much

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  • FrankF Offline
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    replied to KiwiMurph on last edited by Frank
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    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

    He’s better than Sititi and that’s who’s rumoured to be in.

    I disagree.
    Sititi is more powerful and direct than Sotutu.
    It appears two different sets of coaching groups don't like him.

    It's the same coach that doesn't like him. Jason Ryan.

    Wrong.
    Razor selects the loose forwards.
    Ryan the tight 5.

    OK fine but I wouldn't call Ryan and Razor two sets of coaching groups. Two peas in a pod

    Haha "Okay fine"
    Don't let your outrage get in the way of the facts.

    Two sets of coaching groups is disingenuous when you are talking about Ryan and Razor - they are nearly joined at the hip

    You have no idea whether this is true or not.

    Fact is - Foster, Schmidt and Ryan didn't want him.
    And now it appears - Robertson, Ryan, Hansen and Macdonald don't want him either.

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  • KiwiMurphK Offline
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    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

    He’s better than Sititi and that’s who’s rumoured to be in.

    I disagree.
    Sititi is more powerful and direct than Sotutu.
    It appears two different sets of coaching groups don't like him.

    It's the same coach that doesn't like him. Jason Ryan.

    Wrong.
    Razor selects the loose forwards.
    Ryan the tight 5.

    OK fine but I wouldn't call Ryan and Razor two sets of coaching groups. Two peas in a pod

    Haha "Okay fine"
    Don't let your outrage get in the way of the facts.

    Two sets of coaching groups is disingenuous when you are talking about Ryan and Razor - they are nearly joined at the hip

    You have no idea whether this is true or not.
    And you are ignoring the other selectors in both groups.

    Well Foster & co picked Sotutu in multiple squads before Ryan showed up so.....

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