Springboks vs All Blacks I

[BerniesCorner]

If we do happen to have a good first half cant see the rationale to bring the subs on at a set time.
Keep the starting lineup on as necessary and see how gets on.

[W32]

@Jet said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:

I have a bizarre feeling we are going to beat them twice.

We are due some luck on the card front. Reckon 1 or 2 of their okes get "sent".

Allbacks by 15+

Is that you murray?

[canefan]

@BerniesCorner I don't like predetermined subs either. Especially if affects our momentum like last Saturday

[pakman]

@BerniesCorner said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:

If we do happen to have a good first half cant see the rationale to bring the subs on at a set time.
Keep the starting lineup on as necessary and see how gets on.

I meant the Boks changing out their fatties at 40. We ought to get more from ours.

[darylmitchell]

@pakman said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:

@BerniesCorner said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:

If we do happen to have a good first half cant see the rationale to bring the subs on at a set time.
Keep the starting lineup on as necessary and see how gets on.

I meant the Boks changing out their fatties at 40. We ought to get more from ours.

let's hope Taimati Williams starts again.

[ARHS]

@Bones said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:

@pakman shit I just realised Ratima and Finau have the same initials as their future replacements.

And I thought everyone was being replaced by 'AI' these days. Maybe the selectors are showing they are boomers and missed the trend at 6...

[ACT Crusader]

@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:

@BerniesCorner I don't like predetermined subs either. Especially if affects our momentum like last Saturday

I don’t think last weekend was predetermined. In fact far from it. That was more a case of “we are up by plenty, clear the bench”.

Doubt that will happen this weekend.

The Boks have a clear strategy when it comes to subbing their front row forwards.

[nzzp]

[ACT Crusader]

@pakman said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:

Pakman team, assuming EDG fit, but Paddy not:

EDG/CT/TL/SB/TV/SC/SF/RD/TJS(!)/DMac/CC/JB/RI/WJ/BB

Bench: TW/AA/FN/SD/DP/CR/ALB/MT

6/2 bench I reckon. Don’t need an outside back replacement for this test with Jordie and Ioane in the team.

[Duluth]

@nzzp

I wonder when the last time you could get odds like that on NZ?

Maybe Ellis Park a couple of years ago?

[Smudge]

@Duluth said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:

@nzzp

I wonder when the last time you could get odds like that on NZ?

Maybe Ellis Park a couple of years ago?

Pretty sure the answer is never. Certainly not $2.90. Stand by.

[Smudge]

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/129460681/its-a-betting-rarity-as-all-blacks-go-into-south-africa-test-as-underdogs

$2.60 in 2009.

[ACT Crusader]

@Duluth said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:

@nzzp

I wonder when the last time you could get odds like that on NZ?

Maybe Ellis Park a couple of years ago?

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[Bones]

So now we have Razor taking us to new lows in the betting world too.

[Bones]

@pakman said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:

First half will be massive. Aim being to burn off Bok starting fatties by halftime.

Stand by for 'innovative' Rassie time wasting...

Not cheating though. Yuck.

[Chester Draws]

@MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:

Based on actual recent performances then SA should go 2-0

I must be imagining that they lost to Ireland then. At home.

They will be a challenge, for sure, but their current record isn't actually that much better than ours.

[DaGrubster]

@Duluth

The last time you could get odds like that was the last test in SA before the introduction of neutral refs!

[Chris B.]

What we can field is not too far from what we fielded in the RWC final; lock and halfback are the major downgrades - otherwise, we can challenge them.

Hopefully, we've plenty of experience in tipping them over at home.

de Groot (Williams)
Taylor
Lomax
Retallick (Darry)
Barrett
Frizell (Blackadder)
Cane
Savea
Smith (Perenara)
Mo'unga (DMac)
Tele'a ( Clarke)
Barrett
Ioane
Jordan
Barrett

Taukeoi'aho (Aumua)
Williams (Tuúngafasi)
Laulala (Newell)
Whitelock (Vaai)
Papali'i
Christie (Ratima)
DMac (Tele'a)
Lienert-Brown

[ACT Crusader]

@nzzp said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:

@ACT-Crusader Jack and Maling at lock?

Brendan Nel at Ellis Park  /  Aug 14, 2004  /  Sport

Rugby union: Tri Nations: South Africa 40 - 26 New Zealand

South Africa 40 - 26 New Zealand: Marius Joubert scored a hat-trick of tries to keep alive the Springboks' hopes of winning the Tri Nations.

What is sad about that test is that Mils scored one of the best tries of his career. But nightmares of the likes of DWB, Joubert, JdV running through and around the ABs like we were stuck in quicksand whilst 60,000+ Bok supporters were screaming the house down.

[pakman]

@Chris-B said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:

What we can field is not too far from what we fielded in the RWC final; lock and halfback are the major downgrades - otherwise, we can challenge them.

Hopefully, we've plenty of experience in tipping them over at home.

Williams (de Groot)
Taylor
Lomax
Retallick (Darry)
Barrett
Frizell (Blackadder)
Cane
Savea
Smith (Perenara)
Mo'unga (DMac)
Tele'a ( Clarke)
Barrett
Ioane
Jordan
Barrett

Taukeoi'aho (Aumua)
Williams (Tuúngafasi)
Laulala (Newell)
Whitelock (Vaai)
Papali'i
Christie (Ratima)
DMac (Tele'a)
Lienert-Brown

Darry and Scooter are both LH locks, and against starting Bok scrum Vaa’i who is good both sides makes more sense.