All Blacks vs Wallabies 2
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@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Does anyone need any further evidence of huge, blatant Crusader bias now? A lot of posters on here assured us that Razor was above that.
A wasted opportunity to develop his squad in a Test which is in reality a soft game. Instead he's gone for old hands who likely won't be around in 12-18 months. We could end up winning and learning nothing.
Just fucking awful.
Just texted a mate about this - a wasted test opportunity
The next RWC will be here before we know it, and every game is a precious chance to search for the best team we can make. Rassie gets it. Razor seems more interested in marking time before getting the red and black band back together instead of seriously running the rule over some of the emerging guys
this is a rare opportunity to play against moderate opposition and get minutes into players. We're squandering it with TJP BB etc. Should be a bunch of tyro's out there this weekend, particularly on the bench.
Remember, the schedule for the rest of the year is
Japan
England
Ireland
France
Italy3 weekends aginst top tier opposition is going to be brutal. Brutal.
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@booboo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
It would appear Razor is building his version of Cantablacks. I really thought, after having time away from the Saders, that he would be above that. But I was wrong. That leaked side shows a lack of courage in selection IMHO
One in starting VII, one on the bench.
He appears to be waiting for Richie, Lester, and anyone else he can coax back. When the focus should be on the younger prospects that are actually in his squad. In the meantime he's content to play old stagers past their best at the expense of younger emerging players who actually have a chance to be significant parts of the team over the next few years. Frustrating
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@reprobate said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Fucking BB at 10 and TJ at 9. What is this 2014?
Should be DMac at 9 and TJP at 10 to really troll people
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
TJP starting this test shouldn't be a surprise, especially if it is his last. Then we move on.
No. ABs don't give fucking last hurrahs and freebies. Cane and TJ playing 'cos it is the end' sucks the great big cock of death, if that is the reason they are playing. That is a firing offence IMO
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@Machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
TJP starting this test shouldn't be a surprise, especially if it is his last. Then we move on.
No. ABs don't give fucking last hurrahs and freebies. Cane and TJ playing 'cos it is the end' sucks the great big cock of death, if that is the reason they are playing. That is a firing offence IMO
I genuinely think Cane's added some value this season but we should be taking a punt on younger players now.
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It's a good back line, except for 9 and 10. Those guys aren't that important eh... Seriously, what the fuck does this selection accomplish?
Ratima was excellent last week, and showing clear improvement the more he played. TJ is leaving. You achieve fucking nothing selecting him unless Ratima is injured out of the 23.
Beauden Barrett has never been a good 10, and is worse right now than he's ever been before. If everything had been going swimmingly then I could understand giving him a run in a dead rubber, as he will need to play there if McKenzie goes down during a game. But everything certainly has not been going swimmingly, and McKenzie needs to keep playing and we need to keep working on the game plan and developing the combinations.
It's stupid shit. The only upside really for me is that the last 20 will be an interesting watch - though how that goes depends more on the forwards than the 9 & 10. -
@Landers92 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Well folks, the much anticipated post is here. You can all stop with the backline predictions and start chatting about this weekends backline that you’ll see below. I was unable to get the forward pack but have heard that Tuipolotu is a real chance to be in the 23 this week.
Again, and as I usually say, a very reliable source who hasn’t led me astray yet. If it’s wrong I’ll own it.
If there are any late week updates in regards to the team, I’ll post that in this thread.
Backline for this weekend as follows.
- T.Perenara
- B.Barrett
- C.Clarke
- A. Lienart-Brown
- R.Ioane
- S.Reece
- W.Jordan
Bench
21. C.Ratima
22. D.Mckenzie
23. D.HaviliMy concern is they'll tear the Wallabies a new arsehole and then everyone thinks that halves pairing is the one for the NH tour.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@Landers92 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Well folks, the much anticipated post is here. You can all stop with the backline predictions and start chatting about this weekends backline that you’ll see below. I was unable to get the forward pack but have heard that Tuipolotu is a real chance to be in the 23 this week.
Again, and as I usually say, a very reliable source who hasn’t led me astray yet. If it’s wrong I’ll own it.
If there are any late week updates in regards to the team, I’ll post that in this thread.
Backline for this weekend as follows.
- T.Perenara
- B.Barrett
- C.Clarke
- A. Lienart-Brown
- R.Ioane
- S.Reece
- W.Jordan
Bench
21. C.Ratima
22. D.Mckenzie
23. D.HaviliMy concern is they'll tear the Wallabies a new arsehole and then everyone thinks that halves pairing is the one for the NH tour.
I'm a JB fan, but he hasn't exactly been pulling up trees so far this test season. I'm not a big ALB fan, but if he plays well, some competition for places will not do any of them any harm
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Japan would appear to be the test some of the other squad players will get their chance. TJP starting this test shouldn't be a surprise, especially if it is his last. Then we move on.
I wonder if the other thing behind TJ starting is the desire to do finish the test off better than we have done lately - and that Ratima can bring that spark we need.
Same theory for DMac I guess - those 2 guys running at tired forwards (to the extent those still exist in the modern game) to try and spark something late
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@Machpants TJP was always going to be in the 23 as I doubt they'd select Hotham. Of course I prefer Ratima, but perversely I'm looking forward to seeing BB operate with slow ball. It could backfire spectacularly.
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Japan would appear to be the test some of the other squad players will get their chance. TJP starting this test shouldn't be a surprise, especially if it is his last. Then we move on.
Same with Cane IMO. Roigard and Lakai coming into the squad for the EOYT is a must in my view. We need to start building for the future.
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@JK said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
That backline really does suck TJ and BB and ALB Fuck me we have lost the plot.
At least Havili aint at 12....
But he's not a 13 either so why the fuck is he there? Oh yeah, because he's a Crusader.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@JK said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
That backline really does suck TJ and BB and ALB Fuck me we have lost the plot.
At least Havili aint at 12....
But he's not a 13 either so why the fuck is he there? Oh yeah, because he's a Crusader.
He can cover 12 if ALB has to come off.
ALB can shift to 13 if Ioane has to come off.
It makes sense to have a 12 on the bench - less so a 13.
Proctor needs to be given the best possible chance to succeed when he gets another run. Bringing him on out of position wouldn't do that.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@JK said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
That backline really does suck TJ and BB and ALB Fuck me we have lost the plot.
At least Havili aint at 12....
But he's not a 13 either so why the fuck is he there? Oh yeah, because he's a Crusader.
But why was he there under Foster then? Havili in the squad is not really a biased selection - he's not featured in the 23 until injury - AJ Lam would have been my pick for that role, but it is about Havili's level and he's got a heap more experience so it's not hard to see the logic in the selection.
Fihaki on the other hand is well worth having a whinge about.
