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    Imagine how Aaron Smith will feel if we lose a tight one tonight. Knock the record on its head, lose your place, get dragged over the front pages by tabloid gutter journalism... would be tough times.

    Caveat: it'll take something special by the Bokke to win tonight, but even so.

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    Cyprus win streak includes two games against Finland and we would propably take a hiding from south-Auckland u16's. The strongest outfit they played was a powerhouse called Latvia, yes I understand it is hard to understand for people who don't follow the sport, butfor everyone who does, it shouldn't really be comparatible with the AB's record.

    I remeber when the big boys told me about the lead-up to the home match, the Cyprus team arrived on wednesday and spent three days on the piss and after the match said it was the toughest game they played so far, wonder why...

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    So all those teams are amateurs?

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    @taniwharugby
    Yes.

    The streak mostly consists sides that now play in Rugby Europe conference 1 or 2. The ladder is as follows:

    Six Nations

    RE championship (Georgia, Romania..) 6 teams total

    RE trophy (Poland, Ukraine, Moldova..) 6 teams total

    Conference 1(2pools 5 teams each)

    Conf 2 (2 pools, 5 each)

    So they won the majority of their games against sides that are 4 steps down from Six Nations, then won against Slovenia, who at the time might have been higher than conf 2 and lost to Latvia who now sit at conf 1.
    The system changed for this season, so the divisions were different, but the level of opposition still sucks.

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    Comparing the abs to Cyprus is absolutely farking ridiculous. It's like comparing the record of a Super Rugby team with a lower division pub team.

    That record was established against teams tier 1 nations would beat with only 10 men.

    I can't believe anyone believes there is any basis for comparison.

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    If the ABs were really concerned about this record, they'd spend a week playing Latvia and Luxembourg to knock it off.

    Nonetheless, if the question is, "which rugby team has won the most consecutive international matches?", the answer is "Cyprus". We need to win our next nine matches to take that mantle.

    Let's face it - if our soccer team racked up the longest streak by beating the likes of Samoa and Tonga, we'd be claiming it.

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    Cyprus hold the record. End of. Lithuania in second IIRC.

    Just like the all whites held a Fifa record for about 2 decades for whopping Fiji in an 82 qualifier, now Socceroos have it for putting a kazillion pas American Samoa. But, but, but, Brazil are better than the All Whites ???

    Tiers, schemers.

    Awesome work you swarthy cockney Cypriots.

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    @Chris-B. said in 16 in a row ...:

    If the ABs were really concerned about this record, they'd spend a week playing Latvia and Luxembourg to knock it off.

    Nonetheless, if the question is, "which rugby team has won the most consecutive international matches?", the answer is "Cyprus". We need to win our next nine matches to take that mantle.

    Let's face it - if our soccer team racked up the longest streak by beating the likes of Samoa and Tonga, we'd be claiming it.

    Would we? It would be total bollocks if we were.

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    We definitely claim being the only unbeaten team at the 2010 soccer world cup

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    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in 16 in a row ...:

    @Chris-B. said in 16 in a row ...:

    If the ABs were really concerned about this record, they'd spend a week playing Latvia and Luxembourg to knock it off.

    Nonetheless, if the question is, "which rugby team has won the most consecutive international matches?", the answer is "Cyprus". We need to win our next nine matches to take that mantle.

    Let's face it - if our soccer team racked up the longest streak by beating the likes of Samoa and Tonga, we'd be claiming it.

    Would we? It would be total bollocks if we were.

    Well, lets face it - we claimed, "Only team not to lose at the 20XX Football World Cup". It would be a fact, just not a particularly meritorious one.

    Might not even merit a Halberg! 🙂

    Edit: Snap Te Waio!

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    @Chris-B. said in 16 in a row ...:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in 16 in a row ...:

    @Chris-B. said in 16 in a row ...:

    If the ABs were really concerned about this record, they'd spend a week playing Latvia and Luxembourg to knock it off.

    Nonetheless, if the question is, "which rugby team has won the most consecutive international matches?", the answer is "Cyprus". We need to win our next nine matches to take that mantle.

    Let's face it - if our soccer team racked up the longest streak by beating the likes of Samoa and Tonga, we'd be claiming it.

    Would we? It would be total bollocks if we were.

    Well, lets face it - we claimed, "Only team not to lose at the 20XX Football World Cup". It would be a fact, just not a particularly meritorious one.

    Might not even merit a Halberg! 🙂

    Edit: Snap Te Waio!

    That's the royal WE of course. Plenty thought that was total bollocks as well.

    At any rate, this isn't about what WE would brag about, its about comparing records. In this case it's like comparing the innings batting record in test cricket with the 1,000 odd runs scored by that school kid in India. A distinction has to be made between the elite level and a level that is, quite frankly, a complete joke.

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    @TeWaio said in 16 in a row ...:

    We definitely claim being the only unbeaten team at the 2010 soccer world cup

    Think the 'we' should be replaced with 'some'

    While there isn't really any 'divisions' clearly there are a number of them in the irb.

    My sons team went about 35 games without a loss in 2012-2014....I mean they are tier 99 or so and were U8 so would that still count?

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    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in 16 in a row ...:

    In this case it's like comparing the innings batting record in test cricket with the 1,000 odd runs scored by that school kid in India. A distinction has to be made between the elite level and a level that is, quite frankly, a complete joke.

    Yes - and people do. I daresay that if you look in the Guinness Book of Records you'll see Highest First Class Score - Brian Lara 501. Highest test score - I think it's Hayden isn't it?

    But, the highest individual score ever made will be the Indian kid and good for him.

    His record is about as meritorious as Cyprus', but it is nonetheless an indisputable fact.

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    @Chris-B. said in 16 in a row ...:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in 16 in a row ...:

    In this case it's like comparing the innings batting record in test cricket with the 1,000 odd runs scored by that school kid in India. A distinction has to be made between the elite level and a level that is, quite frankly, a complete joke.

    Yes - and people do. I daresay that if you look in the Guinness Book of Records you'll see Highest First Class Score - Brian Lara 501. Highest test score - I think it's Hayden isn't it?

    But, the highest individual score ever made will be the Indian kid and good for him.

    His record is about as meritorious as Cyprus', but it is nonetheless an indisputable fact.

    I can't believe you're actually trying to argue that the Cyprus record can in any way equate to what the ABs have achieved. It's straight out farking retarded. The GBOR also has thousands of records like the most jelly eaten with chopsticks in a minute. Should that record then be given the same level of respect and merit as some of the genuinely incredible achievements in the book?

    As I said, a distinction has to be made and a distinction has been made. To say NZ has to beat Cyprus to have the record is nonsense.

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    The Cyprus record is mere pub trivia

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    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in 16 in a row ...:

    @Chris-B. said in 16 in a row ...:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in 16 in a row ...:

    I can't believe you're actually trying to argue that the Cyprus record can in any way equate to what the ABs have achieved. It's straight out farking retarded.

    @Rancid-Schnitzel

    I can't believe you think I'm arguing that.

    Jesus wept man - that would be ridiculous! 🙂

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    @Chris-B.

    @Chris-B. said in 16 in a row ...:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in 16 in a row ...:

    @Chris-B. said in 16 in a row ...:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in 16 in a row ...:

    I can't believe you're actually trying to argue that the Cyprus record can in any way equate to what the ABs have achieved. It's straight out farking retarded.

    @Rancid-Schnitzel

    I can't believe you think I'm arguing that.

    Jesus wept man - that would be ridiculous! 🙂

    Then what are you arguing about? If there is absolutely no merit to the Cypriot record then why say that the Abs have to beat it to take the mantle?

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    @Rancid-Schnitzel

    Ask me a different question - do I give a fuck if we don't beat Cyprus' record?

    A. No - I don't. I'm not particularly invested in the Tier 1 record.

    This seems to have become one of those odd internet arguments - I'm pretty sure I understand your point and I'm pretty sure you understand mine.

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    @Chris-B. said in 16 in a row ...:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel

    Ask me a different question - do I give a fuck if we don't beat Cyprus' record?

    A. No - I don't. I'm not particularly invested in the Tier 1 record.

    This seems to have become one of those odd internet arguments - I'm pretty sure I understand your point and I'm pretty sure you understand mine.

    Mate it would help if I actually knew what your original point was.

    My original post was in response to suggestions that the AB wouldn't be holding or breaking the real record, because that record that is in fact held by Cyprus. As someone who has witnessed that level of rugby first-hand and (terrifying enough) could have actually played it, I find it ludicrous that these records could be compared in any way shape or form.

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