Coronavirus - Overall
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@MajorRage said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
@Victor-Meldrew Yep, the more that comes out, the more I'm quite impressed.
Read today that automotive paint shops and engine assembly areas have the same sterile conditions needed to assemble medical equipment.
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@Frank My brother lives in Singapore. When shit like this happens there's something to be said for an autocratic leader (as long as they get it right)
Few things also helped. Although its a hub incoming visitor numbers plummeted. He said the streets are deserted. Also the expats largely fled a month ago - two guys in his office went back to northern Italy to avoid the virus...
However things aren't looking so rosy for Singapore today after Malaysia closed the border. They just lost 10% of the workforce and the shelves in the food shops are empty
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
@pakman said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
UK has gone nuclear today in support of businesses. Pretty impressive. £25k each for individual businesses, £330 billion loan guarantees.
And some media commentators are complaining business will have to wait a whole week to get access to the money. Jesus wept
Hate to sound like a broken record, but some of the media are coming across as fruitcakes. Robert Peston, an alleged economics commentator, didn't seem to know the difference between a loan and a grant and was more interested in the thorny matter of BoJo's dad going to a pub.
They were laying into him on old Stan wanting to go the pub wern't they ... Press also made a comment about him saying "last gasp attempts" or something along the lines, poor choice of words I agree but they should be focusing on the good. I'm sick of the same stories every day, I want to hear some of the progress being made... Stories of hope etc.... Feck I'm hormonal.
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@R-L said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
. Press also made a comment about him saying "last gasp attempts" or something along the lines, poor choice of words
Like it's really important that BoJo be pulled up on his choice of words when he's leading an effort to keep deaths down to the lower end of a 20,000 to 200,000 body count range in an unprecedented pandemic.
Most of the media asked sensible, probing questions and did their job well. Others still need to realize the world has changed just a touch in the last two week
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@Virgil said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
So is the UK following through with this Herd plan or going the way of most other countries with a ‘normal’ strategy?
There really never was a Herd plan different to "normal" countries to follow thru on. The plan's been to time interventions to reduce the peak so deaths can be reduced to a minimum - pretty much what the likes of Holland, Japan, Finland, etc are doing.
As BoJo's advisers have said, group immunity will build as people gradually catch the disease and recover. If you don't do this and lock everything down, their view is the disease will simply resurface.
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@Crucial Immunity to that current strain. I think there was some evidence of at least one additional strain but in these early stages thats far from verified. It is however impossible to avoid for a year without destroying your country so best bet is getting that immunity.
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My local this morning. Less people, more orderly queue, a couple angry queue jumpers sent to the back of the line. Announcement at the start that there was still no TP/sugar/tissues and that meat limit was 1 per customer. (Sounds like a recipe for virus transmission to me)
There was this one old dear, in her dressing gown away from the line in one of those walkers you can sit down in. Looked like she was sobbing. I wandered over, "Do you need a hand dear?".
think bogan af voice with no trace of sobbing "Yeah just want some drink and smokes"
Staff member comes over, said they were going to sort her out after the queue ended. -
@Victor-Meldrew said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
Robert Peston, an alleged economics commentator,
That's Robert Peston, an alleged
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@MajorRage said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
The response just simply seems to be more pragmatic, thoughtful and a view on the bigger picture - i.e, closing schools takes away a large percentage of NHS staff.
Still cautious though, this could be the biggest fuck up ever!
The thing is we just don't know which is the better response. This could backfire on Boris but it could also cement his longed for place in posterity. If this things goes well for us he will be PM for some time to come I reckon.
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@Virgil said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
You guys living in the UK must be longing for quieter times, before Brexit, Megxit and now Covid 19 made things ‘interesting’..
Megxit? Really? Do you think any ferner was put out by Megxit??
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@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
This could backfire on Boris but it could also cement his longed for place in posterity
I think he's simply following and supporting his experts advice & strategy - and doing it quite well...so far.
After the Brexit fiasco, the politicians have generally handled this well. I even have to grit my teeth and say I'm impressed with Sturgeon
I get the impression posterity is the last thing on anyone's mind right now.
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@Virgil said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
You guys living in the UK must be longing for quieter times, before Brexit, Megxit and now Covid 19 made things ‘interesting’..
Trust me, after Brexit, this seems quite normal....
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@Hooroo said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
@Virgil said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
You guys living in the UK must be longing for quieter times, before Brexit, Megxit and now Covid 19 made things ‘interesting’..
Megxit? Really? Do you think any ferner was put out by Megxit??
Hell yeah. @MajorRage even started a whole thread on it!
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@antipodean said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
@Kirwan said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
@antipodean said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
Woolworths and Coles react to the "shopping crisis" by introducing elderly shopping hour and people complain that the shelves are still bare.
Like it's the supermarket's fault that they didn't magically create stock levels while every halfwit is busy hoarding whatever they can gets their hands on. This virus really needs to target the morons instead of the elderly.
They could impose limits per shopper to avoid being cleared out as fast.
They have been. Woolworths pointed out that they were selling seven days worth of toilet paper in one day and they were doing Christmas levels of retail, something that takes them five months to build up for. Once they realised they've been playing catch up and the logistics just aren't capable.
In the bottle shop yesterday tradie in front if me mentioned his boss had gone and spent $3,500 on food, and bought brand spanking new freezers to contain it.
Bottle shop attendant gets staff from adjacent Harvey Norman in and said you can't now buy a freezer until September.
Our veneer of civil society has been proven to be a lie.
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@Rembrandt said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
What surprised me on my last shop was that it wasn't just cans, pastas, rice, medications and tp that was bare. It was also a lot of cleaning products andbig gaps in laundry detergent, fabric softner, that sort of thing.
In theory, those that stocked up should now be leaving the shops alone so this should all come back pretty soon, assuming the deliveries are still running as they should.
I am concerned about NZ, how much is imported there? How do they guarantee supply if other nations are calling for more? Would be good to get people convincing reassurances? Some believed that most toilet tissue was imported into Oz from China, could have started the scare and everyone around the world just carried it on.
You're assuming that
a. People aren't idiots
b. People aren't selfishMaybe they'll just run out of freezer space ...