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@canefan thing is, who wants to step into the role right now, if you have long term ambitions, taking over after they lose the election would be the best bet, taking it up now, looking down the barrell at falling short come election time, chances are someone else will see that time as thier shot too.
Simon would surely not be keen to step back in, knowing it was only short term.
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@Donsteppa dude, this 1000%.
In a semi-related segue we moved to Outlook from Google mail at work last week. I flipped the table as it was one more bit of (unwelcome) change in a year that has been a shambles. Didn't matter if it was good or bad change, I was just utterly done on change.
No matter how resilient we are feeling this year has done a number on us. Far more of us running around on a hair trigger than we might expect or admit.
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@Paekakboyz said in NZ Politics:
@canefan she's Chinese aye?
Nikki appears to have contracted Footinmouth20
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@Virgil said in NZ Politics:
Sounds cruel but Iād love to see how Crusher would go as leader.
Either way the millions that will be spent on this years election does seem like a waste of money now.
She came across very well in her AM show slot a wee while ago. She has softened her image a bit and still has a bit of wit. She has been asking the uncomfortable questions in parliament more during this term than anyone. They could do worse right now
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@Mokey said in NZ Politics:
@canefan Well no one is going to out-kind Jacinda, so why not.
I do wonder though if her past reputation of being a bit of a bully (which she has worked hard on remedying) would backfire at the moment. Being seen as 'bullying' Jacinda would not go well but spending time looking strong as opposition leader would.
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@Donsteppa said in NZ Politics:
National is probably at the saving the furniture stage, Collins might do that to a degree.
In her current form she is far more polished than anyone else they can offer up. Her crusher days are a long time ago
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@Crucial said in NZ Politics:
@Virgil said in NZ Politics:
Would Paula Benefit have left still if Muller quit earlier.
She can still 'un-resign' although I think she has burned some bridges already.
I see what you did there.
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@Donsteppa said in NZ Politics:
Collins might do that to a degree.
I just think it is too close to the election for anyone with long term ambitions to step up, if they are gonna give Labour a good run, they need someone with charisma to instantly attract apathetic voters (which Cindy managed)
I dont think there is anyone strong enough right now to steady things enough (the public will think National is a joke too) IMO whoever steps in, does so through to election adn someone else comes in post election to build toward the next one.
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@taniwharugby Collins is best equipped to joust one on one with Cindy. Luxton is coming and perhaps they hope he will be the second coming of JK
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@taniwharugby said in NZ Politics:
@Donsteppa said in NZ Politics:
Collins might do that to a degree.
I just think it is too close to the election for anyone with long term ambitions to step up, if they are gonna give Labour a good run, they need someone with charisma to instantly attract apathetic voters (which Cindy managed)
I dont think there is anyone strong enough right now to steady things enough (the public will think National is a joke too) IMO whoever steps in, does so through to election adn someone else comes in post election to build toward the next one.
It would be the sensible move except that openly having that strategy (nightwatchman) would not sit well with many. It would look defeatist and open potential for an embarrassing rout at the polls. Biggest danger is losing seat numbers or list only candidates that you hope to build a team around.
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