Coronavirus - New Zealand
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@dogmeat last time they had a minor outbreak they were able to stamp it out fast using contact tracing and minimal disruption to the country. I would expect no less next time as a new strain has little difference to the old one for us because we never had a widespread outbreak of covid 19 #1. As you say a lockdown would not go down well with the people
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@dogmeat last time they had a minor outbreak they were able to stamp it out fast using contact tracing and minimal disruption to the country. I would expect no less next time as a new strain has little difference to the old one for us because we never had a widespread outbreak of covid 19 #1. As you say a lockdown would not go down well with the people
Exactly this. If it is true, then they are going to try and trace it and stamp it out before any drastic action is taken. Which seems sensible to me.
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@canefan contact tracing is easier when more people use the app, not many are using it presently.
You'd think after that court thing in Hamilton last week or whenever, it'd give people a scare, but apparently not.
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan contact tracing is easier when more people use the app, not many are using it presently.
You'd think after that court thing in Hamilton last week or whenever, it'd give people a scare, but apparently not.
Sorry, missed that (or can't remember). Can you elaborate?
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan contact tracing is easier when more people use the app, not many are using it presently.
You'd think after that court thing in Hamilton last week or whenever, it'd give people a scare, but apparently not.
Yup, compliance is low right now. We are ripe for an outbreak right now
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@booboo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan contact tracing is easier when more people use the app, not many are using it presently.
You'd think after that court thing in Hamilton last week or whenever, it'd give people a scare, but apparently not.
Sorry, missed that (or can't remember). Can you elaborate?
Woman escaped court with covid19 test result pending
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan contact tracing is easier when more people use the app, not many are using it presently.
Got to admit to forgetting a lot of the time. It's just not always all that obvious.
I remember at the supermarket but smaller shops that I have frequented for years I just wander in as usual unless I walk into the Covid QR code on a plinth or something.
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@Snowy said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan contact tracing is easier when more people use the app, not many are using it presently.
Got to admit to forgetting a lot of the time. It's just not always all that obvious.
I remember at the supermarket but smaller shops that I have frequented for years I just wander in as usual unless I walk into the Covid QR code on a plinth or something.
I'll put my hand up and say I don't ever remember. When we are in Auckland, Mrs Hooroo does so when we go to a restaurant but that is about it.
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@Donsteppa I dont do it for work or gym (although did re-start it for gym last week) do at ~75% of other places I go, most of the big places have numerous ones located, but as always, app is slow opening when I remember to open and use it.
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Donsteppa I dont do it for work or gym (although did re-start it for gym last week) do at ~75% of other places I go, most of the big places have numerous ones located, but as always, app is slow opening when I remember to open and use it.
I don't when I go into my store / work either but I should because I am only there for random hours and only those people that I come into contact with would be more at risk if I happen to have it. Yes it stays on surfaces but we use sanitiser, etc.
I would have thought that a "logout" would be sensible too? So anybody that coincided at the same place, at the same time could be logged. I guess the bluetooth part of the app is doing that now but how many people use it?
The tracking is going to be really important if we want to avoid another lockdown (personal privacies aside).
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@canefan The new strain being more virulent places greater stress on our contact tracing capability. Based on 70% more contagious each transmission link is going to lead to roughly double the number of cases as previously. Just means we will reach our threshold to effectively trace that much quicker.
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan The new strain being more virulent places greater stress on our contact tracing capability. Based on 70% more contagious each transmission link is going to lead to roughly double the number of cases as previously. Just means we will reach our threshold to effectively trace that much quicker.
Any drop in app use is not going to help matters then
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New Zealand’s borders are getting even stricter with arrivals from virtually all countries soon needing a negative Covid test before boarding a plane here.
Covid-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins on Tuesday broadened the restrictions, which would cover all countries except Australia, Antarctica and some Pacific Island nations. They would also need an extra test with 24 hours of arrival in New Zealand.
The rules were previously introduced for those arriving from the United Kingdom and United States. Those come into force on Friday.
From January 29, those who arrived without evidence of a negative test - for those countries from where one is required - could see returnees stung with a fine of up to $1000.
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
I give these sort of rumours little credence. It would be political suicide for the government to know of community transmission and not lock down immediately. The transmission rate is so high even 24 hours delay would be catastrophic and the fact the govt had sat on their hands would come out.
That's not the same as saying its definitely not out there - but short of the rumours being based on someone going "psst I've got COVID but I'm not getting tested - don't tell anyone" how would anyone know?
If we do go back into lockdown it's going to be ugly. I'm sure we all know people who don't have the resilience for a third episode.
Precisely. It should not be lost in these "rumours" that the date being bandied about as the announcement of the next lockdown is the same date being thrown around by Billy TK and his mates. The circulation of these rumours will be to try and add credence to his claims and get more of the public onside after his previous date declarations rung hollow.
As dogmeat says, for this many people to know of community transmission this far out with nothing being done by those in charge would be political suicide.
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I'm still using the app and also adding names of people who are with me who don't sign in (my wife is terrible if we're together). I'm not at work (still at the NZ chess champs), but will be back later this week, and have some grapevine knowledge, so will be interesting to see if anything has eventuated. I suspect it was just a directive to update Covid plans for the new strain on the grounds that if it does get out, lockdown is more likely, not that anyone has specific knowledge of impending lockdowns.
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@Godder said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
I'm still using the app and also adding names of people who are with me who don't sign in (my wife is terrible if we're together). I'm not at work (still at the NZ chess champs), but will be back later this week, and have some grapevine knowledge, so will be interesting to see if anything has eventuated. I suspect it was just a directive to update Covid plans for the new strain on the grounds that if it does get out, lockdown is more likely, not that anyone has specific knowledge of impending lockdowns.
Have you seen any pretty redheaded chess prodigies?
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@Tim said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Is there any data on use of the app's Bluetooth function?
All on the website. 507k turned on as of this week
Just got back to desk and looked at that again. That is only about a 20% takeup on registered apps.
Are the other 80% all tinfoil hat wearers?