Coronavirus - New Zealand
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Waiting to hit up my boss on these rumours. His wife is high up in medical response/strategy team for Covid. His quality of sauce has been impeccable to date.
But I agree with the sentiments that we should seriously be looking at travel from these hotspots. Especially as our vaccinations are yet to begin. -
I give these sort of rumours little credence. It would be political suicide for the government to know of community transmission and not lock down immediately. The transmission rate is so high even 24 hours delay would be catastrophic and the fact the govt had sat on their hands would come out.
That's not the same as saying its definitely not out there - but short of the rumours being based on someone going "psst I've got COVID but I'm not getting tested - don't tell anyone" how would anyone know?
If we do go back into lockdown it's going to be ugly. I'm sure we all know people who don't have the resilience for a third episode.
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@Bovidae said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Its why we should stop pussy footing around and make using the QR Code mandatory with hefty fines for both individuals and businesses for non compliance.
I've scanned a QR code three times today, the last at a supermarket. There were a number people who walked straight in at the supermarket. My point is that the businesses have the QR codes displayed at the door so it is up to individuals to use them.
I agree with Michael Baker in that NZ should stop all flights that have passengers coming from high risk countries (UK, SA, India and USA).
Difficult to do. Can put in stricter requirements (as they have) and make things as difficult as fuck but you can't make a bunch of NZers stateless if their visas overseas run out and you have blocked them from returning.
Stopping unnecessary travel may be a better option to reduce risk. Cut the numbers and the chances of a 'mistake' decrease with less frontline workers potentially exposed. -
@dogmeat agreed, if they knew there was something in the community, but delayed and then put us into Lockdown...well, we seen the US POlitics thread
“It would be very different if there was an outbreak in the community and you wanted to know what strain people were infected with, for instance. That’s when hours can really make a difference,” he said.
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@dogmeat last time they had a minor outbreak they were able to stamp it out fast using contact tracing and minimal disruption to the country. I would expect no less next time as a new strain has little difference to the old one for us because we never had a widespread outbreak of covid 19 #1. As you say a lockdown would not go down well with the people
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@dogmeat last time they had a minor outbreak they were able to stamp it out fast using contact tracing and minimal disruption to the country. I would expect no less next time as a new strain has little difference to the old one for us because we never had a widespread outbreak of covid 19 #1. As you say a lockdown would not go down well with the people
Exactly this. If it is true, then they are going to try and trace it and stamp it out before any drastic action is taken. Which seems sensible to me.
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@canefan contact tracing is easier when more people use the app, not many are using it presently.
You'd think after that court thing in Hamilton last week or whenever, it'd give people a scare, but apparently not.
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan contact tracing is easier when more people use the app, not many are using it presently.
You'd think after that court thing in Hamilton last week or whenever, it'd give people a scare, but apparently not.
Sorry, missed that (or can't remember). Can you elaborate?
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan contact tracing is easier when more people use the app, not many are using it presently.
You'd think after that court thing in Hamilton last week or whenever, it'd give people a scare, but apparently not.
Yup, compliance is low right now. We are ripe for an outbreak right now
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@booboo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan contact tracing is easier when more people use the app, not many are using it presently.
You'd think after that court thing in Hamilton last week or whenever, it'd give people a scare, but apparently not.
Sorry, missed that (or can't remember). Can you elaborate?
Woman escaped court with covid19 test result pending
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan contact tracing is easier when more people use the app, not many are using it presently.
Got to admit to forgetting a lot of the time. It's just not always all that obvious.
I remember at the supermarket but smaller shops that I have frequented for years I just wander in as usual unless I walk into the Covid QR code on a plinth or something.
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@Snowy said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan contact tracing is easier when more people use the app, not many are using it presently.
Got to admit to forgetting a lot of the time. It's just not always all that obvious.
I remember at the supermarket but smaller shops that I have frequented for years I just wander in as usual unless I walk into the Covid QR code on a plinth or something.
I'll put my hand up and say I don't ever remember. When we are in Auckland, Mrs Hooroo does so when we go to a restaurant but that is about it.
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@Donsteppa I dont do it for work or gym (although did re-start it for gym last week) do at ~75% of other places I go, most of the big places have numerous ones located, but as always, app is slow opening when I remember to open and use it.
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Donsteppa I dont do it for work or gym (although did re-start it for gym last week) do at ~75% of other places I go, most of the big places have numerous ones located, but as always, app is slow opening when I remember to open and use it.
I don't when I go into my store / work either but I should because I am only there for random hours and only those people that I come into contact with would be more at risk if I happen to have it. Yes it stays on surfaces but we use sanitiser, etc.
I would have thought that a "logout" would be sensible too? So anybody that coincided at the same place, at the same time could be logged. I guess the bluetooth part of the app is doing that now but how many people use it?
The tracking is going to be really important if we want to avoid another lockdown (personal privacies aside).
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@canefan The new strain being more virulent places greater stress on our contact tracing capability. Based on 70% more contagious each transmission link is going to lead to roughly double the number of cases as previously. Just means we will reach our threshold to effectively trace that much quicker.
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan The new strain being more virulent places greater stress on our contact tracing capability. Based on 70% more contagious each transmission link is going to lead to roughly double the number of cases as previously. Just means we will reach our threshold to effectively trace that much quicker.
Any drop in app use is not going to help matters then