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@NTA said in Manchester Arena Explosion:
@mooshld said in Manchester Arena Explosion:
@canefan said in Manchester Arena Explosion:
@Rembrandt I'll agree with you that rooting out places that foster or tolerate extremism is a good start. If they trace these acts back to a mosque for example that place should be shut down
So thats twitter fucked then
Even more when you hear reports of people making Twitter accounts with fake victim queries ("have you seen"), in order to generate retweets.
That's pretty fucking low.
Speaking of people using the attack to drive attention towards them:
How self absorbed do you need to be?
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@antipodean said in Manchester Arena Explosion:
@NTA said in Manchester Arena Explosion:
@mooshld said in Manchester Arena Explosion:
@canefan said in Manchester Arena Explosion:
@Rembrandt I'll agree with you that rooting out places that foster or tolerate extremism is a good start. If they trace these acts back to a mosque for example that place should be shut down
So thats twitter fucked then
Even more when you hear reports of people making Twitter accounts with fake victim queries ("have you seen"), in order to generate retweets.
That's pretty fucking low.
Speaking of people using the attack to drive attention towards them:
How self absorbed do you need to be?
I guess it gives her time out from farmville
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@antipodean who is that?
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@Frank said in Manchester Arena Explosion:
@Tim
Not sure about that. His branding is very calculated.
They are set up for visual impact and future confirmation bias. (Crooked Hillary, Lyin Ted, Low Energy Jeb)http://blog.dilbert.com/post/160986020961/goodbye-isis-hello-losers
That's drawing a very, very long bow.
It pays to recall that people didn't associate Hillary with being crooked as a result of Trump; that was a well held public perception. Trump just gave her a nickname. If anyone thinks giving ISIS a nickname defeats the spread of Wahhabism, they're not paying attention.
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Mark Steyn's editorial on the wider cultural/policy issues. I'm sure a few will dislike the source, but it is worth a read even if you disagree with his stance on islamic immigration. Most people with these views either don't share them or don't present them as eloquently
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Great article from Steyn.
A great comment from "Brendan Smith" in response to Steyn:
The west is faced with an implacable foe, always seeking to outdo itself in terms of evil and depravity. Hugh Muir of the Guardian believes he has the answer. He's calling for the most robust possible attack law enforcement can muster......against free speech.
Keep sounding the alarm. Hopefully our society will awake before it's too late.
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Damn, it's troubling when news comes out to say a person who has just caused agony to so many people and families was known to authorities.
I'm all for civil liberties...but fuck. If someone is behaving in a very odd manner and doing a whole bunch of things that hardcore twinge the terrorist antenna, then greater good and protection of innocents should always take precedence.
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@Mokey said in Manchester Arena Explosion:
Damn, it's troubling when news comes out to say a person who has just caused agony to so many people and families was known to authorities.
I'm all for civil liberties...but fuck. If someone is behaving in a very odd manner and doing a whole bunch of things that hardcore twinge the terrorist antenna, then greater good and protection of innocents should always take precedence.
Problem is what he was preaching is straight from the Koran. If the police go around investigating everyone that preaches stuff from the Koran they'll be very busy indeed. I honestly don't think there is much they can do to prevent someone manufacturing an explosive device and running into a crowded area. They've already thwarted a bunch of attacks in the past year, which in itself is an incredible achievement, but all of that stuff is very much the ambulance at the bottom of the cliff. It's the ideology in it's most fundamental form (Wahhabism) that is inspiring this sort of depraved shit.
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@No-Quarter The good news is Trump identified Iran as an international agent of
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@antipodean incredibly frustrating. He was saying the right things, but not addressing it to all of the right people, because money.
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@antipodean said in Manchester Arena Explosion:
@No-Quarter The good news is Trump identified Iran as an international agent of
mysteryterrorism, while extolling the virtues of the House of Saud in a $100 billion defence industry deal.Was a bit odd considering the Iranians just elected a moderate president(?) over the hardline opponent
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@Duluth said in Manchester Arena Explosion:
Mark Steyn's editorial on the wider cultural/policy issues. I'm sure a few will dislike the source, but it is worth a read even if you disagree with his stance on islamic immigration. Most people with these views either don't share them or don't present them as eloquently
It's such an insane situation. Western leaders know that continuing this level of immigration from the Muslim world will result in more social problems and terrorism but don't dare admit it or do something about it. They would rather continue with the new normal rather than be labelled racist or bigoted by the usual halfwits.
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@canefan said in Manchester Arena Explosion:
@antipodean said in Manchester Arena Explosion:
@No-Quarter The good news is Trump identified Iran as an international agent of
mysteryterrorism, while extolling the virtues of the House of Saud in a $100 billion defence industry deal.Was a bit odd considering the Iranians just elected a moderate president(?) over the hardline opponent
I have no problem with him calling out Iran and the scumbags there that have promoted terrorism like this, but doing that while praising Saudi Arabia is face-palm material. Obama's "we're all best buddies and there's no problems with Islam" approach meant he never had to call anyone out, but also meant things only worsened under his watch. Trump is trying to be more direct which is great to see, but obviously trade deals are more important then stopping terrorist attacks in the greater scheme of things.
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