Anzac Day
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Thanks jegga<br><br>
My old man never talked about his service apart from an island he went to with a really tall statue of a dick -the difficulties in getting to know the local popn and because he saw their suffering first hand the contrast with how he had felt about them and how many of the vets he served with still did. <br><br>
He didn't like the yanks. Very racist he thought. <br><br>
And like the article he felt bad he hadn't seen combat. <br><br>
I also think being 15 and serving with hardened veterans Hasan life long effect on him -
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<p>Fuck yeah - make sure you're wearing a GoPro.</p>
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<p>I took the boy out for a ride this morning and some shops were open before midday. Now I know its tough to run a small business, but at least fucking hold off until midday Mr Indian Grocery Store Owner. No-one will die if you don't sell something once an hour.</p>
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<p>On my morning walk I saw a bunch of pubs open, so you might want to give the Indian bloke a pass for following the lead of his fellow countrymen. </p>
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<p>Here it's 1pm on ANZAC Day, but dairies, petrol stations and places which serve food are exempt. Alcohol can be sold with food before 1pm (liquor license permitting).</p> -
<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.news.com.au/finance/business/retail/woolworths-facing-hefty-fines-after-breaching-anzac-day-trading-restrictions-in-nsw/news-story/b8ddd62634f84932ca6256f49ca41a91'>http://www.news.com.au/finance/business/retail/woolworths-facing-hefty-fines-after-breaching-anzac-day-trading-restrictions-in-nsw/news-story/b8ddd62634f84932ca6256f49ca41a91</a></p>
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<p style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);">Under NSW law, Anzac Day is classified as a restricted trading day, with large retailers including Coles, Aldi and Woolworths not permitted to open before 1:00pm.</p>
<p style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);">In previous years, the NSW government would allow IR inspectors to use “common sense†and allow businesses to prepare for trade by letting staff in early, but that allowance was dropped this year by Ms Berejiklian.</p>
<p style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);">Legislating for setup time was proposed as part of the Boxing Day trade amendments late last year, but was not agreed to by all parties and subsequently removed from the negotiations.</p>
<p style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);">Retailers were informed of the decision several weeks ago, meaning staff were not legally allowed to enter premises before 1:00pm this year.</p>
<p style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);">Under the <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.legislation.nsw.gov.au/#/view/act/2008/49/part4/sec18'>NSW Retail Trading Act 2008</a>, a shop is in breach of trading restrictions if “orders for goods were received by a person in attendance at the shop†or “goods were received, or unpacked or otherwise prepared, at the shop for sale at the shopâ€.</p>
<p style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);">The laws are intended to prevent stores from gaining an unfair advantage over their competitors.</p>
<p class="" style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);">Customers snapped pictures of BBQ chickens time-stamped as early as 10:50am and bread rolls labelled before 12:49pm. News.com.au understands others were told by sushi team members the sushi was prepared at 10:00am.</p>
<p class="" style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);">Breaches carry maximum penalties of $11,000 per store. Woolworths has 250 stores in New South Wales, meaning if every store is found to have breached trading restrictions, the total penalties could be as high as $2.75 million.</p>
<p class="" style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);">A maximum $11,000 penalty also applies if any team member was coerced into working.</p>
<p class="" style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);">In one recent case, a <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.industrialrelations.nsw.gov.au/biz_res/oirwww/pdfs/IGA_Appin_Prosecution_Statement.pdf'>Supa IGA in Appin was fined $1700</a> for opening on restricted trading days Good Friday and Easter Sunday and advertising that they were open.</p>
<p class="" style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);">“Any alleged breaches will be investigated by NSW Industrial Relations inspectors,†Ms Berejiklian said.</p>
<p class="" style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);">In a statement, a Woolworths spokeswoman said: “Clear direction was given to stores that volunteer salaried managers were allowed to enter and undertake certain limited preparations for opening at 1:00pm.</p>
<p class="" style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);">“This is in line with the NSW regulations. We were keen to ensure our customers’ shopping experience today, as on all days, met their expectations.â€</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote">Under NSW law, Anzac Day is classified as a restricted trading day, with large retailers including Coles, Aldi and<strong> Woolworths </strong>not permitted to open before 1:00pm
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<p>Ah, I see, NTA, you're shill-ing for your company. ;)</p> -
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<p>Very much so. FB feed is full of people checking in at dawn services. Dubious as to why you'd do this.</p>
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<p>As was mine. The dawn parade I went to last year was littered with camera flashes as trendily dressed people took dozens of photos on their camera phones, presumably to show their mates they were there.</p>
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<p>My Facebook newsfeed contained more than a few people who wouldn't have the time of day to yarn to an old veteran on the bus and wouldn't be seen dead in an RSA 364 days of the year, but by 7am on the 25th of April they've already posted half a dozen photos to Facebook with some cliche rant about freedom that quite probably don't believe. </p>
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<p>In hindsight, I really need to do a Facebook friend cull...</p> -
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<p>As was mine. The dawn parade I went to last year was littered with camera flashes as trendily dressed people took dozens of photos on their camera phones, presumably to show their mates they were there.</p>
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<p>My Facebook newsfeed contained more than a few people who wouldn't have the time of day to yarn to an old veteran on the bus and wouldn't be seen dead in an RSA 364 days of the year, but by 7am on the 25th of April they've already posted half a dozen photos to Facebook with some cliche rant about freedom that quite probably don't believe. </p>
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<p>In hindsight, I really need to do a Facebook friend cull...</p>
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<p>If I can actually get my sons to come along to one when they're older I'll get a photo for FB but I agree with all of the above. Better half and I went and certainly don't feel the need to tell the world and certainly didn't take a photo between us. Nothing I enjoyed more than yarning with my Grandad about his old war stories over a milo when I was little and a beer as I got older. </p> -
Telling people about it on Facebook is waaaay less real than bragging how much you care on the Fern
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Telling people about it on Facebook is waaaay less real than bragging how much you care on the Fern</p></blockquote>
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I'm glad someone else saw the irony -
CF jnr wanted to attend the dawn service so I took him along (my first time too, don't know why I've never gone before). Very dusty at the cenotaph it must be said. Also it was the first time I've sung Advance Australia Fair too. One and only time this year....
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@mariner4life said in Anzac Day:
Telling people about it on Facebook is waaaay less real than bragging how much you care on the Fern
@mariner4life said in Anzac Day:
Telling people about it on Facebook is waaaay less real than bragging how much you care on the Fern
Still don't get this comment
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Isn't it better these people attending, for whatever reason than not attending at all? If they take thier kids, thier kids will no doubt ask or want to find out why they are going, so there is learning for them.
Tpdays generation of checker inner, selfie takers and taking a million photos on thier phone, might seem odd to us, but to many it is the norm.
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@taniwharugby we had US marines there today for the first time. They put up a US flag but didn't have anyone from the marines do a speech which was a bit odd.
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@taniwharugby we had US marines there today for the first time. They put up a US flag but didn't have anyone from the marines do a speech which was a bit odd.
Was that in Welly @jegga ?
Would have been the Marines that are posted at the Embassy. Not usually anyone senior to make a speech and they probably don't want to intrude on our ceremony. I've not seen them there in an official status before. They often just turn up in the crowd in their number twos.
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I'm off to the London dawn service in the morning. Bit of a bitch as the time of year here makes it 5am and you are advised to be there at 4 as you have to get through security.
Haven't missed one in quite a few years now.
I don't have any close rellies that served in action but kind of feel it's a nice thing to add to the general feeling of thanks to those who did.
As for taking pics, I did so at the 100 in Wellington as it was truly impressive. The turnout was huge and the setting there is quite awesome when the sun starts to hit the Oz sandstone memorial. Also the Mrs was in the US so wanted her to see. She got to attend one the yanks arranged on the beach in Florida that year. -
@taniwharugby we had US marines there today for the first time. They put up a US flag but didn't have anyone from the marines do a speech which was a bit odd.
Was that in Welly @jegga ?
Would have been the Marines that are posted at the Embassy. Not usually anyone senior to make a speech and they probably don't want to intrude on our ceremony. I've not seen them there in an official status before. They often just turn up in the crowd in their number twos.
@taniwharugby we had US marines there today for the first time. They put up a US flag but didn't have anyone from the marines do a speech which was a bit odd.
Was that in Welly @jegga ?
Would have been the Marines that are posted at the Embassy. Not usually anyone senior to make a speech and they probably don't want to intrude on our ceremony. I've not seen them there in an official status before. They often just turn up in the crowd in their number twos.
No Paraparaumu , they are over here on an exercise. I thought it was odd because there's quite a strong connection to the marines here on the coast .
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I heard on the radio this morning that some protest group (Appease action??) was going to attend one of the Wellington ceremonies in regards to Hagar's book because they thought it was appropriate.
Please tell me that this didn't happen, or if it did, some Vet mowed them down on his/her NZ flag laden mobility scooter.