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@jegga said in US Election Thread 2016:
Can anyone gleefullly predicting Hilarys demise explain to me how a Trump victory is better for NZ?
I cannot see any way where a Trump presidency would be better for NZ.. except maybe avoiding more global conflict. But that is unlikely either way.
I am pissed off at the media, the regressive left and the system that has let things skew so far into PC madness that we end up with voters willing to let Trump in just to escape the current situation. When it is almost a hate speech to say you are a straight white male, when it considered 'racist' to not like Islam, when it is considered xenophobic to have border controls, free speech is under attack daily by the regressive left etc etc That is the crucible for the fucked up situation we have now where the only outlet many voters have is a huge middle finger as they drag everyone over a cliff.
We are stuck with a 2 party system in most western countries where people cannot speak their mind without hordes of social justice warriors screeching that someone get fired, look at Paul Henry this week... ffs... many people are just completely over the squeaky wheels getting all the grease.
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... and equally fucked up is the way border control is used by some as an excuse for xenophobia and racism, acts of terror committed by muslims are used as an excuse for bigotry, criticising PC is used as an excuse for sexism etc etc.
there are idiots on both sides of the spectrum. i do agree that the middle finger has been lifted by many voters - but i disagree with your reasons. the middle finger was given to jeb bush and all the other republicans too remember: establishment politics and their disconnect from the masses is at least as relevant as your right wing bent.
free speech at least is one of the few things we agree on baron. 'hate speech to say you are a straight white male' is a little bit of an exaggeration though. i'm a straight white male, and i cop zero abuse and zero discrimination for that - as opposed to women, poofs, darkies, muslims etc - who all do. in actual real life that is, not on the telly. -
@reprobate said in US Election Thread 2016:
... and equally fucked up is the way border control is used by some as an excuse for xenophobia and racism, acts of terror committed by muslims are used as an excuse for bigotry, criticising PC is used as an excuse for sexism etc etc.
there are idiots on both sides of the spectrum. i do agree that the middle finger has been lifted by many voters - but i disagree with your reasons. the middle finger was given to jeb bush and all the other republicans too remember: establishment politics and their disconnect from the masses is at least as relevant as your right wing bent.
free speech at least is one of the few things we agree on baron. 'hate speech to say you are a straight white male' is a little bit of an exaggeration though. i'm a straight white male, and i cop zero abuse and zero discrimination for that - as opposed to women, poofs, darkies, muslims etc - who all do. in actual real life that is, not on the telly.IMO you have completely misread my point about why we are in this situation with Trump.
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in US Election Thread 2016:
@jegga said in US Election Thread 2016:
Can anyone gleefullly predicting Hilarys demise explain to me how a Trump victory is better for NZ?
I cannot see any way where a Trump presidency would be better for NZ.. except maybe avoiding more global conflict. But that is unlikely either way.
I am pissed off at the media, the regressive left and the system that has let things skew so far into PC madness that we end up with voters willing to let Trump in just to escape the current situation. When it is almost a hate speech to say you are a straight white male, when it considered 'racist' to not like Islam, when it is considered xenophobic to have border controls, free speech is under attack daily by the regressive left etc etc That is the crucible for the fucked up situation we have now where the only outlet many voters have is a huge middle finger as they drag everyone over a cliff.
We are stuck with a 2 party system in most western countries where people cannot speak their mind without hordes of social justice warriors screeching that someone get fired, look at Paul Henry this week... ffs... many people are just completely over the squeaky wheels getting all the grease.
Fuck me sideways with an XXXL dildo Baron, but if only you'd posted this some 3.000 posts ago and actually nailed your colours to the mast you would have saved probably 2.500 of those posts half of which you were being accused of being a Trump groupie and half of which you weren't categorically denying it. Bloody good work.
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Interim DNC Chair caught (again) feeding questions to Hillary Clinton prior to debates.
CNN have cut all ties with her but she has not been fired as interim DNC Chair.
The real issue is that the Clinton campaign were obviously okay with it because it happened twice.
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@Frank said in US Election Thread 2016:
Interim DNC Chair caught (again) feeding questions to Hillary Clinton prior to debates.
CNN have cut all ties with her but she has not been fired as interim DNC Chair.
Worth noting it was in the primary debates. This was part of the DNC hobbling Sanders
Which is what forced DWS to resign.. to be replaced by Brazile..
So CNN has got rid of her. Surely the DNC has to fire her and distance the Clinton campaign from this corruption?
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@Duluth said in US Election Thread 2016:
Worth noting it was in the primary debates. This was part of the DNC hobbling Sanders
Was Sanders really a chance? I know we're talking about voters throwing up the middle finger, but he was waaaaaay too hippie for even the middle left to consider.
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@NTA said in US Election Thread 2016:
@Duluth said in US Election Thread 2016:
Worth noting it was in the primary debates. This was part of the DNC hobbling Sanders
Was Sanders really a chance?
No
The DNC didn't need to hobble his campaign. I think they just wanted his campaign to be over quicker
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@NTA said in US Election Thread 2016:
@Duluth said in US Election Thread 2016:
Worth noting it was in the primary debates. This was part of the DNC hobbling Sanders
Was Sanders really a chance?
probably not, but the longer someone genuine stays in the race and gets heard by more people against hillary the more their chances go up.
if anything though, that makes it worse. cheating isn't a one-off 'this is too important' thing, it's just what they do in any fight.
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@NTA said in US Election Thread 2016:
@Duluth said in US Election Thread 2016:
Worth noting it was in the primary debates. This was part of the DNC hobbling Sanders
Was Sanders really a chance? I know we're talking about voters throwing up the middle finger, but he was waaaaaay too hippie for even the middle left to consider.
Irrelevant. It was cheating plain and simple.
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A fairly interesting read.
Thiel said it was “both insane and somehow inevitable” that political leaders would expect this presidential election to be a contest between “political dynasties” that have shepherded the country into two major financial crises: the tech bubble burst in the early 2000s, and the housing crisis and economic recession later that decade.
Could not agree more.
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Scott Alexander's I Can Tolerate Anything Except The Outgroup article is always worth reading, with regards to political division, the culture war, or faux diversity.
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This link popped up on HRCs Facebook page this morning
Sounds pretty tenuous to me - smacks of Clinton trying (poorly) to get the media off her and back onto Trump however it complements the Russia Connection double standard that Reid alleged against Comey.
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@Tim said in US Election Thread 2016:
A fairly interesting read.
Thiel said it was “both insane and somehow inevitable” that political leaders would expect this presidential election to be a contest between “political dynasties” that have shepherded the country into two major financial crises: the tech bubble burst in the early 2000s, and the housing crisis and economic recession later that decade.
Could not agree more.
Great read Tim, thanks.
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