Aus v NZ -Chappell Hadlee series II
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Hell of a sunset at Manuka Oval.
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We are really missing a Vettori like bowler aren't we. Someone to take some pace off any momentum that is building. Instead we just keep dishing up overs that can be attacked.
In the light of the chase required this isn't a bad batting effort. Take away some of the need to slog and it would probably be a pretty good score. -
We'll need to make some changes for our next series. Safe are Guptill, Williamson, Boult and Southee. To that you can probably add Henry and Santner. Obviously Taylor is an in, which solves the top order depth issue. Anderson may also return. Neesham has shown me enough with the bat to suggest he might be the guy at five, but in my top team I have a specialist batsman there. We should be able to jettison Munro and the outclassed CDG. For mine, Watling isn't a ODI keeper and it's time we either gave the gloves to Latham and then played an extra batsman lower down, or we need to unearth a keeper who can belt it at around 7 or 8. Sodhi has to come back into the squad and I think Nicholls should be persevered with.
Based on what I've seen in the series and what I already knew, my top ODI XI if all fit, would be:
Guptill
Latham wk
Williamson
Taylor
Nicholls
Neesham
Anderson
Santner
Henry
Southee
Boult -
I wouldn't have batted second at Manuka Oval...
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@antipodean said in Aus v NZ -Chappell Hadlee series II:
I wouldn't have batted second at Manuka Oval...
As Ian Smith said at the start: deny the opposition what they want. Australia ALWAYS want to bat first unless there is some blue moon reason not to.
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@shark That's a much stronger looking side. I'm not sure Henry is a lock though - when is Mitch M due back?
For the 3rd ODI id bring Nichols in for Munro - Ferguson in for Henry and potentially Astle in for CDG - Astle is in the squad - might as well see what he has got.
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This has to be one of the weakest ODI sides we've put out in 20 years isn't it? The middle order is abysmal, the middle over bowlers are terrible...
Jeez its shithouse. And this is an Aussie side SA just thrashed 5--0. Its really tough to see any fix, I mean its pretty much our top side - or rather the one Shark named is, and thats still pretty fricking poor anywhere other than Queenstown. Add to that half our "ok" side are permanantly injured (Milne, Mitch, Neesham, Anderson)
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@Crucial said in Aus v NZ -Chappell Hadlee series II:
We are really missing a Vettori like bowler aren't we. Someone to take some pace off any momentum that is building. Instead we just keep dishing up overs that can be attacked.
In the light of the chase required this isn't a bad batting effort. Take away some of the need to slog and it would probably be a pretty good score.Where is Grant Elliott?
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Retired last April.
And his runs per over were pretty bad -
Theres a LOT of 1 over for 10 & off in there, he wasn't exactly our middle overs safety. I'd rather have Neesham.
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What are everyone's thoughts on the keeping situation? Ronchi is written off. I love Watling in tests but he's not much of an ODI player and he's also into his 30s so doesn't have any long term upside either. I don't think there's a standout limited overs wicket keeper-batsman out there at the moment, so I think we've got two batsmen in the squad who have kept wicket before in Latham and Nicholls so why not hand one of them the keeping duties. Neither are dead certs in the side but Latham is relatively secure and the more experienced of the pair so he would be my choice. This is also tremendous for the balance of the side.
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@antipodean said in Aus v NZ -Chappell Hadlee series II:
I wouldn't have batted second at Manuka Oval...
I thought that was a very odd call by Kane when he won the toss. Why would you ever allow Australia the opportunity to have first crack at a belter of a pitch and get runs on the board? Especially when our bowlers are struggling?
As others have said, two very limp performances by a weak assed lineup. Honestly, I wouldn't have minded two losses if we had fought hard and got within 50. But two by over 100 runs is disgraceful, and also demonstrates how shit our bowling has collectively been (although in the first game it was more the fucking awful fielding). Congrats, Black Caps. You have played the Aussies back into form.