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@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@MN5 for obvious reasons people from Eastbourne don't identify as being from the Hutt
Dude, I'm not from there I just live there.
Actually that paints me in an even worse light...
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@taniwharugby that transgender weightlifter is beyond ridiculous. The only thing more ridiculous is the complete lack of outrage on having an ex-male weightlifter being able to compete against actual women. It is cheating without doubt and by not calling them out on it we are creating a terrible precedent for all womens sports. If you want to live as another gender then that's great and fine but you can't expect the entire world to change overnight just to fit you in. Selfish in the extreme.
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@Rembrandt said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@taniwharugby that transgender weightlifter is beyond ridiculous. The only thing more ridiculous is the complete lack of outrage on having an ex-male weightlifter being able to compete against actual women. It is cheating without doubt and by not calling them out on it we are creating a terrible precedent for all womens sports. If you want to live as another gender then that's great and fine but you can't expect the entire world to change overnight just to fit you in. Selfish in the extreme.
It gives a few fringe All Blacks the chance to have a crack at the Black Ferns though
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@MN5 said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@MN5 for obvious reasons people from Eastbourne don't identify as being from the Hutt
Dude, I'm not from there I just live there.
Actually that paints me in an even worse light...
You're living together now? Cool, I hope things are working out well for you guys.
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@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@MN5 said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@MN5 for obvious reasons people from Eastbourne don't identify as being from the Hutt
Dude, I'm not from there I just live there.
Actually that paints me in an even worse light...
You're living together now? Cool, I hope things are working out well for you guys.
Naaa @Bones lives in the UK.....
Ohhhhh hang on, I see what you mean. Yeah they are so far I just need to get used to checking my car hourly....
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@Rembrandt yeah doesn't sit well with me.
Will we start having to have a transgender category, or 2 in fact, like Male > Female and Female > Male as they would also unlikely be able to fairly compete.
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@taniwharugby said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@Rembrandt yeah doesn't sit well with me.
Will we start having to have a transgender category, or 2 in fact, like Male > Female and Female > Male as they would also unlikely be able to fairly compete.
That's a shame. I could easily picture Akira Ioane handing off 15 chicks in one run from his own goal line.
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@Rembrandt The Left will be paralysed with this conundrum; support those with mental disabilities who want to put on a dress, or enable women to compete against each other. Because if this trend continues, elite women's sport will be dominated by contestants who have had the benefit of a couple of decades of testosterone.
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@antipodean said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@Rembrandt The Left will be paralysed with this conundrum; support those with mental disabilities who want to put on a dress, or enable women to compete against each other. Because if this trend continues, elite women's sport will be dominated by contestants who have had the benefit of a couple of decades of testosterone.
It's fundamentally fubar because in virtually every sport on earth a strong, fit, skilled bloke will be better than a strong, fit, skilled chick. Look what happened when the Williams sisters took on some dude ranked really low in world tennis?
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@MN5 said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@antipodean said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@Rembrandt The Left will be paralysed with this conundrum; support those with mental disabilities who want to put on a dress, or enable women to compete against each other. Because if this trend continues, elite women's sport will be dominated by contestants who have had the benefit of a couple of decades of testosterone.
It's fundamentally fubar because in virtually every sport on earth a strong, fit, skilled bloke will be better than a strong, fit, skilled chick. Look what happened when the Williams sisters took on some dude ranked really low in world tennis?
Or when the Top golfer took on the dudes and got smoked as well.
Also when the under15's took on the Aussie Womens foooty team and smoked them up.
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Must be some awkward dinner conversations if this is the kind of crap her father thinks
http://m.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=9002553
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@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
Must be some awkward dinner conversations if this is the kind of crap her father thinks
http://m.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=9002553
Was that supposed to be referencing an article in 2004?
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@Hooroo said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
Must be some awkward dinner conversations if this is the kind of crap her father thinks
http://m.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=9002553
Was that supposed to be referencing an article in 2004?
Yeah, the homophobe bloke in the article was the father of the weightlifter dudette.
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This is pretty impressive behaviour on the parents part
http://m.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11822708
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@jegga yeah I saw the one about the Grandmother this morning then this...reading the other story its linked to, it is surely gang related and they are using the kids and then prtecting them.
Shows they dont give a shit when they are robbing Iwi-owned petrol stations.
That said, when thier whanau's and community takes a stand like this, hopefully it points to a change.
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@MN5 said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@Rembrandt said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@taniwharugby that transgender weightlifter is beyond ridiculous. The only thing more ridiculous is the complete lack of outrage on having an ex-male weightlifter being able to compete against actual women. It is cheating without doubt and by not calling them out on it we are creating a terrible precedent for all womens sports. If you want to live as another gender then that's great and fine but you can't expect the entire world to change overnight just to fit you in. Selfish in the extreme.
It gives a few fringe All Blacks the chance to have a crack at the Black Ferns though
Zac Guilford springs to mind
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@Rembrandt said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@taniwharugby that transgender weightlifter is beyond ridiculous. The only thing more ridiculous is the complete lack of outrage on having an ex-male weightlifter being able to compete against actual women. It is cheating without doubt and by not calling them out on it we are creating a terrible precedent for all womens sports. If you want to live as another gender then that's great and fine but you can't expect the entire world to change overnight just to fit you in. Selfish in the extreme.
I agree it's completely fucking absurd. They interviewed the woman that came third who was very diplomatic with her "that's just the way it is, they've decided she (he) is a female, nothing I can do so no comment to make". I would be fucking furious if I was her.
