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He was only there to cop a feel of Hayley Holt! Bassists get all the groupies. Slappa da bass.
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@Paekakboyz said in NZ Politics:
He was only there to cop a feel of Hayley Holt! Bassists get all the groupies. Slappa da bass.
Anyone that has ever been on tour knows that the bass player only gets the scraps, even after the roadies. Only the drummer is behind the bass player and that's usually because hes usually too pissed.
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@Tregaskis Yep and lets not forget when Sullen cancelled tax cuts [of between 67c and $10 per taxpayer ffs] he promised leading up to the 2005 election
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10474020
This is awkward in an election year
If you want to step through the looking glass and see the hard left somehow present this as a win for Little
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Looking forward to the Standard's updated take on this one. Nothing posted yet.
The Hagamans have spent $200k on legal fees and Little issues an 11th hour apology blinking back crocodile tears. Then tells them that their continuing the action is vexatious.
I love how he says he is constitutionally obliged to hold the government to account BY SLANDERING A PRIVATE CITIZEN. "Holding the government to account" is as close as he'll ever get to government itself.
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Hilariously Jacinda Arderns father was also involved in the deal, she overtook Lithle in the polls this week too.
The comments in that Standard post are bizarre, but then when you consider in the past a decent number of the loons there considered that Nanaia Mahuta was actually capable of leading Labour maybe not -
This article could fall under three threads currently in off-topic (justice system 2.0, alternative needed for shit NZ media and this one), but this seems the most fitting.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11825770
How this tripe makes the paper is ridiculous. How the use of Police dogs becomes a political issue is even more ridiculous, given it's really more an indictment about the demographics of who is committing crime.
I didn't know much about Marama Fox prior to reading this article, but apart from suspecting she may be borderline retarded, I see she only got into parliament in 2014 on the list, and is now the co-leader of the party? That's everything that's wrong with the MMP system right there.
In regards to the actual content of the article, the original article should probably have been titled "12 year old breaks into Kindergarten and refuses to co-operate with Police" instead of "Police set attack dog on 12 year old".
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I always have a giggle when I think of the knobs that stole my 1st car then tried to outrun the police dogs, on foot...
Too many idiots around these days.
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@aucklandwarlord Yeah, I saw that this morning and wondered to myself how, if the poor dear didn't identify herself, the police would have known the person hiding in the kindie after midnight was a Maori female child and not, say a 45 year old white man with a can of petrol and a lighter. And a machete.
I wish I was as prescient as Marama Fox apparently is.
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Yup. In the same way you can't outswim a shark, you can't outrun a land-shark.
It's funny that the whole age thing even comes into play, given the amount of young teenagers or pre-teens who want to commit adult crimes.
I feel I might have already told this story on here but when I was frontline we had a failing to stop along Tamaki Drive late one night with a stolen Toyota Landcruiser that was being used in a series of robberies and various other types of crime around the city. We had the helicopter overhead so as per protocol, they took the lead in the pursuit and we pulled back. The offenders ditched the car in a street in a swanky street in St Heliers and split up in different directions. The car was overloaded with about 6 or 7 people so the helicopter was directing cops to the locations of the offenders, spread across 4 or 5 properties in the street.
I got directed to go and grab someone who was hiding down the side of the house. I'd left my torch in the car in my haste to get out. When the guys in eagle suddenly said my offender was making a run for it, and was going to directly cross my path down the side of the house, I couldn't see much. We had no idea what we were going into or who we might end up arresting, so I saw the dark figure flash across in front of me and I laid on possibly the best tackle I've ever made in my life. Hard and flush, right up under the rib cage, with my full weight landing on top of them. The sound of all the air escaping their lungs was fairly satisfying to me, given I was full of adrenaline from the chase.
Turns out the offender I tackled was a moderately sized 13 year old girl, who had been in the car, had been involved in all of the robberies, and who had a pocket knife and a screw driver in her pocket.
The point of the story (other than that 13 year olds are suprisingly satisfying to tackle) is that I had no idea of the age or race of the person I was using force on, as the dog handler in the story wouldn't have, and even if I had known their race, it wouldn't have mattered in a fluid situation. Also, 13 year olds are committing adult crimes with greater frequency, and a 13 year old swinging a knife would kill or maim an officer just as well as a 40 year old swinging a knife. It's a shame Marama Fox can't grasp this concept before she opens her mouth and cries racism.
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@aucklandwarlord sorry I can only like that once, this is the reason I support all officers having cameras on . There's a definite revenue stream being wasted there on a police cam YouTube channel and imagine the money from ads that go with 2017 top 10 feral takedowns ( number six will shock you) or the top 10 least lucid ferals trying to talk their way out of a breath test?
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Yup. It's super easy for people to clutch their pearls and shriek 'only 12/13!' but there are pre teens, and then there are pre teens.
Some offenders are even younger, like the pair that got into my bathroom window and stole my entire make up bag last year. Now this window is round the back of my place, that you have to cross my property to find. Not near a driveway or thoroughfare or easy to get to. This was plotted out. Both fucking primary school, girl about 9, boy about 6. I chased after them, they lived nearby. Lied repeatedly to my face, but slowly their story unraveled. Handed back the bag, which was near empty, saying that was all that was in it.
Little shits had taken most items out of the bag and scattered them in their backyard, burying them in the vege patch, under shrubs etc. The father had the nerve to ask me to calm down. I would have punched him in the face, and backhanded those two little fuckwits into the middle of next week, but the mother and grandmother were so mortified, and apologetic as they helped me find things.
So don't fucking talk to me about the innocence of pre-teens. They know damn well when they are somewhere they aren't supposed to be, doing something they sure as shit aren't supposed to do. Like trespassing, breaking/entering, theft etc.
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like those little teenage fucks whose GRandmother and Mother turned them in this week...got out on bail then were involved in an incident of stealing a car, leading cops on a chase and hitting some cows.
Best we protect the little petals.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/northern-advocate/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503450&objectid=11825775
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@aucklandwarlord are you still working in the police in Auckland? (Probably a daft question)
My brother in law is a detective in Auckland -
@taniwharugby Seven billion of us wandering the planet and people still make arguments against eugenics...
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To answer a question that came up earlier, the Maori Party will work with whoever is in govt:
Putting aside the various commentary in the article, the stats that come up are unpleasant reading:
Maori being 15% of the general population and yet making up 51% of the prison population (and 56% of the remand population), suggests that there is some work to do somewhere. I doubt it's caused by intergenerational trauma as suggested by an interviewee in the article, but unconscious bias and Maori being over-represented in the low income brackets causing impaired access to good lawyers probably have something to do with it.
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Interesting article and I agree with the basic points that we need to confront the over representation of Maori (and your points about access to good lawyers etc as well).
However, I'm not convinced that stuff have actually shown real racism - rather than being a reflection of the shitty economic and education problems surrounding Maori. For a supposedly lengthy investigation, they don't seem to be able to provide very strong personal examples.
Four years ago, he was charged with manslaughter following the death of a man in Auckland. Morrison, who was studying to be a paramedic, was working at a Salvation Army rehabilitation centre when a man who had been drinking heavily and had been involved in a previous stoush stumbled on to the property and smashed a glass door.
Morrison found the man down the road and confronted him about the damage.
"He just steps in and I think he's coming at me," Morrison says. "My instinct is to push him away [and] I catch him on the side of the face he falls down, hits his head on back of the ground."
Morrison calls an ambulance and starts giving the man first aid, but a week later he dies in hospital.
The police, meanwhile, allege Morrison punched the man with a closed fist - even though there is no evidence he had.
"It came down to a [witness] who had been drinking for 11 and a half hours who said he saw me run across the road and said that's all he saw. When he was asked in court, and also in his statement if he saw me punch the guy he said no."
A jury took less than two hours to find him not guilty.
That seems to me like the system working as it should to me? Hard to see racism when a jury took two hours to show that the case hadn't been made and he was acquitted. I'd like to see other similar examples of pakeha with prior records who weren't charged in order to consider any normative racism with that example.
I'd also like to see the data when controlling for income, education, and gang membership.
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I hope that these two get sued for this and the NZDF is telling the truth.
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Breakfast grilling English over this now.
Asking why they don't just do an enquiry to clear it up....there has been an independent in inquiry.
I wonder how much an inquiry would cost, to the taxpayer cos if allegations turned out unfounded would Hagar have to stump up?
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