Wayne Smith retiring from All Blacks roles
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@rotated said in Wayne Smith retiring from All Blacks roles:
My initial feeling after listening to the press conference was that there is a strong overseas candidate they believe will apply, very clearly stating they are waiving the previous provision that you have to be NZ based for these types of roles.
Haven't heard the press conference, but if this is the case - and assuming it won't be someone trading an international head coach job for an assistant's role with the ABs (ruling out Gatland, Schmidt and Joseph) then the most likely candidate might be Vern Cotter - assuming he's got an out clause in his club coaching contract?
Otherwise I'm struggling to think of an overseas NZer that I'd describe as a strong candidate.
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@rotated said in Wayne Smith retiring from All Blacks roles:
@SammyC said in Wayne Smith retiring from All Blacks roles:
@rotated said in Wayne Smith retiring from All Blacks roles:
Pretty obvious candidate for me that hasn't been mentioned. That former Canterbury coach working in Japan seems like he would be and ideal candidate if he wanted to return to NZ. Clear ties going back with the Hansen, Tew, Shand infrastructure too.
I hope you're right
but given the history between Robbie and Hansen/Tew I'd be kind of suprised if it happened.(or maybe I read that wrong and you're talking about Rob Penny)
Meant Penney but tried to make it read Deans. He did everything he was able to do in NZ including the U20s, had adequate if unspectacular results at Munster, similar results in Japan (useful for RWC planning perhaps)? Always impressed me.
Don't know too much about his relationship with Hansen (perhaps my enemies enemy is my friend) but he surely had a bunch to do with Tew back when he was at Malborough and Super Rugby was getting going.
No chance with Deans, pretty much everything Wayne Smith is being lauded for Dingo has been the complete opposite.
The same Penney who left NZ because he didn't feel like he was even in the running for Super head coach jobs? Whatever his relationship with Tew is, it can't be helping him that much.
Fuck it annoys me that good coaches like Penney and Keane have to go overseas to look for promotions, while Mark Hammett's about to be head coach of his second Super team.
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@Bovidae ha, just read this article about TJP on Smith....
Tackling is not the same as defending. Wayne Smith taught TJ Perenara that.
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@Bones said in Wayne Smith retiring from All Blacks roles:
Well duh, it's obviously Mauger.
Mauger is not doing anything post Leicester is he? I still think he will develop into a class assistant, probably not a head, but definately an assistant.
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@Hooroo said in Wayne Smith retiring from All Blacks roles:
I see in the news this morning Smith is pumping Fozzie to take over from Hansen
@Hooroo said in Wayne Smith retiring from All Blacks roles:
I see in the news this morning Smith is pumping Fozzie to take over from Hansen
Interesting, he knows what sort of coach he better than any of us but his time at the Chiefs still makes me wonder if he's up to it.
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@jegga said in Wayne Smith retiring from All Blacks roles:
@Hooroo said in Wayne Smith retiring from All Blacks roles:
I see in the news this morning Smith is pumping Fozzie to take over from Hansen
@Hooroo said in Wayne Smith retiring from All Blacks roles:
I see in the news this morning Smith is pumping Fozzie to take over from Hansen
Interesting, he knows what sort of coach he better than any of us but his time at the Chiefs still makes me wonder if he's up to it.
Fozzies biggest problem at the Chiefs was selections. He was so random and tried way to hard to mix it up. It was really baffling at times.
In an ABs set up he won't be the sole selector and will have probably learned a lot over these years. I reckon Shag and Smithie are pretty good judges so if they reckon he's the man then I wouldn't discount that at all. -
@Crucial said in Wayne Smith retiring from All Blacks roles:
Fozzies biggest problem at the Chiefs was selections. He was so random and tried way to hard to mix it up. It was really baffling at times.
In an ABs set up he won't be the sole selector and will have probably learned a lot over these years. I reckon Shag and Smithie are pretty good judges so if they reckon he's the man then I wouldn't discount that at all.Wayne-o touched on the Chiefs and said anyone who judges him by that doesn't credit people with the ability to learn and grow. I'd be nervous about Fossie, but I wasn't sure that Hansen would make a good leader either. So, really, what the hell do I know about what goes on behind closed doors, and if Smith rates him, maybe I should too.
It just feels wrong.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11860063
*Smith was quick to point to the fact that Foster guided the team to a semifinal and final during his tenure.
"I think that's a non-thinking throw-away line that doesn't make sense to me," Smith said. "That takes away the attitude that everyone can learn and everyone can improve."*
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@booboo said in Wayne Smith retiring from All Blacks roles:
Just a thought...
...what happened to Tony Gilbert post 2001?
He went Scotland for a while , after that I don't know. Maybe they would have gone better as a team if their roles were reversed?
