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@Tim said in Manchester Arena Explosion:
I know there was some reaction to this earlier. But if it all holds true, I reckon it's wise that they've stopped sharing in the interim.
Partly because who knows what else they might leak... and partly that investigations and shutting down evil sods rarely works as well when it appears in the media earlier than planned. Especially with the modern click bait/24 hour news cycle version of the media we're now stuck with...
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Interesting bit there for all the people going "The muslim community must step up!"
They did. They stepped up time & time again. Almost every muslim he interacted with was horrified over his views & many flagged him directly to the police. Its hard to think what more they could have done. (tho' I'm sure someone will try...)
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@gollum said in Manchester Arena Explosion:
Interesting bit there for all the people going "The muslim community must step up!"
They did. They stepped up time & time again. Almost every muslim he interacted with was horrified over his views & many flagged him directly to the police. Its hard to think what more they could have done. (tho' I'm sure someone will try...)
If this is true shit will hit the fan
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@Donsteppa said in Manchester Arena Explosion:
"Manchester attack: Trump condemns media leaks"
These leakers need to be prosecuted. Leaking has become a default setting for political damage.
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@canefan said in Manchester Arena Explosion:
Doesn't sound like any of the shitbag's family are showing any signs of remorse. Any of them living in the UK should be shipped back to Libya and their passports revoked
Are these the ones that are anti-radical and devastated?
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Good article by a typical racist bigot:
"Islamists, for decades, have regarded Britain not as a family, but as a place to eat and sleep on their way to somewhere else. While the privileged wring their hands and wonder what they might have done to offend their exotic guests, those to whom the house belongs are beginning to pipe up and object. Whenever they do – for example, when their kids are murdered at a pop concert – their more sophisticated relatives seem mostly preoccupied with the desire to avoid a scene.
Openly discussing Islamism is not an attack on me or any other British Muslim. We are the hostages of Islamism and its vampire preachers who weaponised Salman Abedi and used him to slaughter 22 innocents, in the midst of their joy, out of sheer spite. Speaking frankly and honestly about this horror is the only hope we have of emerging from it as anything resembling a cohesive British family."
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Worth a watch.
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Wasn't too sure where to put this, but as this is the most recent thread we've had on Islamic terrorism I thought this as good a place as any.
Really good discussion between Jordan Peterson (you could say I'm a fan) and Ayaan Hirsi Ali. They articulate far better then I the points I've been trying to get across on the problems within Islam and the underlying causes of the terrorism we see today. After a big terrorist attack everyone loves to jump in with their opinion but from what I can see (not so much talking about just on here) very few people have taken the time to understand what is actually going on, which is frustrating to say the least.
They discuss the different types of Muslims (Mecca, Medina, Reformers), the difficulty with trying to differentiate the militant political parts of Islam with the purely religious, and the role that countries like Saudi Arabia and Qatar play waging this idelogical war on the west by pushing their Wahhabi Islam to all corners of the earth.
They also don't paint feminists in the west in a good light, and rightly so.
If you want to understand Islam better and what motivates these terrorists, and I really think you should, then this is a great place to start.
Unfortunately Ayaan's voice echos a bit but still easy enough to understand.
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