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@antipodean said in North Korea:
@NTA WTF for? They can be launched from the US.
Certainly won't make the Chinese happy.
I think with tactical nukes we're just talking artillery - "A-tips" as they're known.
Strategic nukes would cover ICBM.
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@taniwharugby said in North Korea:
@antipodean then maybe they should they should kick Kim's arse and get him to toe the line?
Ok, how?
@NTA said in North Korea:
@antipodean said in North Korea:
@NTA WTF for? They can be launched from the US.
Certainly won't make the Chinese happy.
I think with tactical nukes we're just talking artillery
Still pointless. As soon as you fling a nuke, regardless of yield, you've escalated to a full release scenario.
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@antipodean they seem to be the only ones he listens to.
The fact you alluded to them not being happy about the US nukes in SK, I assume China probably also not happy that Kim testing NUkes on their doorstep, they are in the best position to get him to chill.
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@taniwharugby said in North Korea:
@antipodean they seem to be the only ones he listens to.
The fact you alluded to them not being happy about the US nukes in SK, I assume China probably also not happy that Kim testing NUkes on their doorstep, they are in the best position to get him to chill.
I've no doubt they're less than pleased a despotic regime on their doorstep is developing a nuclear capability. The question is what China can do about it - the only thing they share now is a one party state and the removal of the pretence they're communist states.
Basically they're in the same place as everyone else; they can't force regime change without immense cost.
Ultimately their input may be economic; enforcing sanctions. Something they've not always been zealous about.
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I hate to say it, but I think it's going to be all on.
KJU seems adamant that they should be able to have the same firepower as the US, and will continue to develop / test / provoke. I'm not sure that he has the balls to actually send something the US way, but I'm sure he has the balls to push things past the point of no return.
Obviously think anything is preferable to war, but just can't see this going any other way.
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How Sony, Obama, Seth Rogen and the CIA Secretly Planned to Force Regime Change in North Korea
The secret backstory to the U.S.-North Korea standoff.
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The film allegedly sparked North Korea to hack Sony and leak thousands of internal Sony emails. North Korea also warned the Obama administration not to allow the film to be released, branding it “an act of terrorism.” So, when (Bruce) Bennett invited questions at his congressional briefing, I asked him: what was his involvement in The Interview, and did he think it was effective?
At first, Bennett was elusive, saying, “I did not work on the movie.” When I reminded him that he had been listed as an adviser, he changed course. “I heard about it for the first time when I was sent a copy of the DVD by the president of Sony Pictures, who was asking, do we need to be worried about this?” he explained, inspiring a ripple of laughter throughout the room. Bennett continued: “So I had a tail-end role in trying to help them appreciate what they might be worried about.”
But there’s a lot more to the story. Now that Kim is dominating the news once again, it’s time to revisit this film and how it became a weapon in the long-running American war against North Korea.
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ALTERNET link:
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This could actually work.
Dennis Rodman Offers to ‘Straighten Things Out’ Between Trump and Kim Jong-un
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Donald Trump is president and Dennis Rodman is going to negotiate a treaty between N Korea and the States. I'm trying to pin point the exact date I accidentally slipped into an alternate reality.
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@antipodean just what I was about to say
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Is "Rodman on a peace mission" even half as crazy as Obama pushing "Seth Rogen to provoke hostilities"...?
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I still find it highly amusing, scary and instructive that Obama and Hillary finger-wagged and condemned the filmmakers of "The Innocence of Muslims" as irresponsibly provoking violence, warning about consequences of cultural insensitivity and blaming the film for the Benghazi fiasco (a total lie, as it turned out), yet out of the other side of their mouths being shock-shock-shocked!! that "The Interview" might also be culturally insensitive and have consequences provoking a tyrant that they have long inferred is thin-skinned, insane and has his finger on the button of an atomic bomb that is three-to-five times bigger than Hiroshima's Little Boy bomb. Do as I say; not as I do. Amusing. Scary. Instructive.
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An interesting read here that provides some background as to why expecting China to help sort shit out with NK is not as straightforward as some think.
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People in neighbouring Japan have been warned by the national broadcaster NHK to take shelter.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/96875502/north-korea-fires-off-missile-yonhap
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C*nts could at least fire them at a reasonable time. It's fucking rude.
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Would it help if America promised to buy the oil of China that they currently send to N.Korea? I mean telling China to give up a source of revenue for no reward (given NK are never going to attack China) is probably not going to work.
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if it weren't as serious as this could be, it would actually be funny!
https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/97124088/kim-jong-un-deranged-trump-will-pay-dearly-for-threat
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haha, if this is what keeps his people thinking he is not bowing to US pressure, then great!
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