Defining Who We Are ... NZ All Blacks
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@mooshld said in Defining Who We Are ... NZ All Blacks:
Thats the one.
I was in Paris last year, the RM billboard had DC, a long haired Jaap whose name escapes me, and one token frog? NH rugby is just like EPL club football, loaded with stars (many old) but light on local talent.
Edit shows how much I know, the long haired one is a froggie! The team still plays Joe Rok!
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Hayman was shot. Although lots of ferners wanted him to play longer in Black, clearly he was no longer prepared to do the hard yards. They saw his physical ability untarnished and assumed, wrongly, that his mental game must be too.
In an earlier age he would have just retired cold. David Kirk did, because he wanted other things.
He cashed in for the big dollars, but it wasn't at any cost to the ABs.
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@chester-draws said in Defining Who We Are ... NZ All Blacks:
Hayman was shot. Although lots of ferners wanted him to play longer in Black, clearly he was no longer prepared to do the hard yards. They saw his physical ability untarnished and assumed, wrongly, that his mental game must be too.
In an earlier age he would have just retired cold. David Kirk did, because he wanted other things.
He cashed in for the big dollars, but it wasn't at any cost to the ABs.
Collins was fried too - sure he came back for Super Rugby the next season but he was mentally gone. I'm not sure whether Rodders drop off a year or so later was more physical.
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@majorrage when he was capped, I actually thought he'd be one of those players that got a solitary cap, and probably shouldn't have ever been...as it was he got 3 (assuming he wont get another)
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this can go in here....as it does sort of show the community sprit that still exists in rugby.
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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12008004
There are some doozies in here.
#2, I will never forgive Mitchell for his treatment of Cullen, and his omission in the 2003 RWC squad. He was arguably the best 15 that S12 season or if not he was a close run 2nd to Mils, bung knees and all
#3 The story about Wayne Bennett is a classic ending to a shambolic campaign
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The Bennett story is particularly funny given he won the Grand Final the year with Hodges, and Hunt out of their preferred positions and Lockyer was converted from a fullback a year or so earlier.
Won the 2000 final with Mr Utility Shaun Berrigan at 7 too.
In hindsight carrying Carter with the knowledge he would at best make it 40 minutes was the only major selection blunder that day IMO.
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I read that list, thought it was a bit shit really. Would expect to read better on here.
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@mariner4life said in Defining Who We Are ... NZ All Blacks:
I read that list, thought it was a bit shit really. Would expect to read better on here.
Yeah a couple of them completely ignore the context ie. Injuries to multiple players.
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@mariner4life said in Defining Who We Are ... NZ All Blacks:
I read that list, thought it was a bit shit really. Would expect to read better on here.
Scott Hamilton didn't even get a mention. Hats were eaten left right and wing when he got seclected!
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@mariner4life said in Defining Who We Are ... NZ All Blacks:
I read that list, thought it was a bit shit really. Would expect to read better on here.
Of course you'd read better here. We're the Fern! 😁
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Comments by the outgoing Sorenson prompted this by Liam Napier...
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12011824
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Which was in turn followed up by Gregor Paul
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12012553
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The rule should not be changed. Ever. The only advantage I could see is that it would lower the wage bill. But I don't think it would make the ABs any stronger if overseas players could be selected. There might be better rugby players available to the coaches, but with the logistics and all the rest that go with it, I doubt the team itself would be any better.
Paul is really in hyper-agressive mode these days, though - I don't really think calling them the "Maori All Blacks" or the "All Blacks Sevens" has partly killed off the ABs.
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@taniwharugby said in Defining Who We Are ... NZ All Blacks:
Which was in turn followed up by Gregor Paul
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12012553
WE'RE KILLING THE AURA!!!!!!
