All Blacks v Springboks
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@rebound said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@rapido really how does your mind work. In this game there was more penalties awarded in the 2nd half then in the 1st half and the telling thing is the ABs were not penalised in the 2nd half. That's persistent infringing and requires progressively harsher penalties. That is the whole point of penalties on rugby. Otherwise what's the point then if a team can concede p
5 consecutive penalties in their danger zone and don't get cardsThe Boks only conceded 10 penalties in the entire match, how can you possibly bray for cards based on that?
Card braying is a current cancer on the sport imo.
Refs who buy into the trend that x number of penalties = cards are also a cancer on the sport. Having to turn around and go defend a lineout 5m from your line is already a huge punishment.
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@rapido said in All Blacks v Springboks:
What is this ref blunder the herald speak of?
I don't want to read from that piece of shit website/paper. Removed them ages ago from my bookmarks.
I find recall anything at the time in the match, maybe I was typing a TSF post at the time .....?
They claim in his headset the AR said something like 'Green 8 and 9 offside' when the ABs were hammering away. Hence, an easy 3 (if you aren't BB), and a win.
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@nzzp Yes I think you are right about that 6/8 cover. Although Savea really has not done anything wrong the last couple of games, although a little inclined to want to do too much, we don’t have that backup to provide some punch. Maybe Frizzel and my personal choice Akira. Last night Barret was the option but he is really not a huge physical impression out there.
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@nzzp said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@rapido said in All Blacks v Springboks:
What is this ref blunder the herald speak of?
I don't want to read from that piece of shit website/paper. Removed them ages ago from my bookmarks.
I find recall anything at the time in the match, maybe I was typing a TSF post at the time .....?
They claim in his headset the AR said something like 'Green 8 and 9 offside' when the ABs were hammering away. Hence, an easy 3 (if you aren't BB), and a win.
Right.
So good realistic RWC knockout prep. Tight finish, ref probably won't decide it for you ....
(Slight tangent. I don't like current refereeing applications where all teams are allowed to be 1m offside at every ruck, until, it gets to a few meres from the tryline and suddenly that white line cant have a toe cross it. It's too easy to score once you get close )
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Match stats are amazing.
NZ
75% possession
79 % territoryBroken down second half:
81% possession
87% territoryhttp://www.espn.com/rugby/matchstats?gameId=292793&league=244293
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@nzzp said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@rapido said in All Blacks v Springboks:
What is this ref blunder the herald speak of?
I don't want to read from that piece of shit website/paper. Removed them ages ago from my bookmarks.
I find recall anything at the time in the match, maybe I was typing a TSF post at the time .....?
They claim in his headset the AR said something like 'Green 8 and 9 offside' when the ABs were hammering away. Hence, an easy 3 (if you aren't BB), and a win.
Btw, thanks for the outline.
That article with the cry baby headline appeared in this feed within about half an hour of the final whistle.
I really, really, really didn't want to reward that with a click.
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@rocky-rockbottom said in All Blacks v Springboks:
couldnt sleep after that. must say you guys are taking this remarkably well.
Even with the AB's "our own harshest critics" party line, and given the dealing with millenials thing, and the never losign thing, and super-wise guru Hansen having been in the job for eons, I wonder if he ever really brings the fucken hammer down.
"Jordie, you can go sit in the fucken stands next week, this isn't some tenured succession rite that's your divine right by virtue of your fucken bloodline. Beaudy, you and DMac can decide who wants to sit on the end of the fucken bench and pray you're the fucken fullback impact sub for 20 minutes cos both you helter skelter rudderless nimrods are about 10 million rungs below Ben Smith. Rieko and Wais to the wings.
"TJ, you got ran down by a fucking number 8. Yes, a fucking big fat forward. Go take a lap. Where's your cool hongi now fluffybunny?
"When I saw a waiting pod of Karl T, Pat T and Ofa I turned to Fozzie and said 'fuck me we're gonna fucken lose this.' If 3 Auckland Blues gather within a radius of 5 metres it's basic physics that you instantly have an inescapable Bermuda Triangle of fluffybunnies into which the hopes and dreams of a nation will suddenly vanish and die. I'm half of a mind to buy the whole Blues franchise just to shoot the fucking thing into space. Maybe biff it on Musk's next rocket to fucking Mars. Even the Martian microbe XV might hold onto the fucken ball more often than Ofa does. And those little microbe fluffybunnies don't even have fucken arms or legs
"Oh, one last thing, Richie is currently en route here in his chopper. He said he is going to confiscate ALL last nights test caps and burn them on a ceremonial fucking pyre. He said he is then going to use his chopper rotors to decapitate, in his words, 'the fluffybunny in the 10 jersey'. Richard Hugh Mccaw did not play through 280 test match wins with a loose bolt in his foot so some precious back fluffybunny could casually shank 4 piss-easy kicks on his home fucking ground vs the fucking boks."
Rant-tastic as usual!
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Just to confirm from my hazy memory, did the Boks threaten our line 3 times and come up with 5 tries? That's incredible efficiency!
You can always criticise the defence of any team that concedes but SA attacked at speed and manipulated the defence which made poor decisions. That's how the ABs score many of their tries.
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@chris-b said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@rapido Wow look at those tackle counts.
Apart from the penalty count. The similarities to Cardiff 07 is quite strong.
Dominate possession and territory. Bash bosh on the line instead of setting for the drop.
I would think there's some good lessons here.
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@rapido said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@chris-b said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@rapido Wow look at those tackle counts.
Apart from the penalty count. The similarities to Cardiff 07 is quite strong.
Dominate possession and territory. Bash bosh on the line instead of setting for the drop.
I would think there's some good lessons here.
Better to take our medicine now than in Japan next year
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@rapido said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Match stats are amazing.
NZ
75% possession
79 % territoryBroken down second half:
81% possession
87% territoryhttp://www.espn.com/rugby/matchstats?gameId=292793&league=244293
2007 quarter final type stats.
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@rapido I thought the similarities to '99 were quite strong.
From a position of strength, ship a bucketload of points in a very short time and don't give the ball to the guy who was on fire!
Points shipped-wise, that might be the worst 25 minutes in AB history?
The second 40 minutes vs France were worse, but the rate of scoring was probably a bit lower - though I watched it a year or so back and for a while all we were doing was carrying the ball back to halfway to kick off.
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Ugh. Stupid media. Nigel didn't cost us the game. Us gifting the Boks at least two of their tries, BB not being able to hit the side of a barn with his goalkicking, and the lack of cool heads embracing the perfect setup for a DMac droppie lost us the game.
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@mokey said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Ugh. Stupid media. Nigel didn't cost us the game. Us gifting the Boks at least two of their tries, BB not being able to hit the side of a barn with his goalkicking, and the lack of cool heads embracing the perfect setup for a DMac droppie lost us the game.
technically, he did hit the side of the barn, twice, the ball just bounced away from the entrance
