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@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
North and Souths latest issue has a cover story written by Nicky Hagar alleging they are guilty of war crimes and rapes . There’s also a story about the difference between sex and gender.
It’s been steadily going down the toilet since Warwick Roger and his wife left , amongst other things they’ve been obsessed with writing stories about convicted murderers being innocent . Hope they get new management who are less woke , it’s garbage now.
Not sure why Hagar keeps pushing this war crimes shit, even if it’s true I doubt many give a fuck.
A village of cave dwelling future terrorists taken out by the nz army in retaliation for ambushing our forces? -
@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
North and Souths latest issue has a cover story written by Nicky Hagar alleging they are guilty of war crimes and rapes . There’s also a story about the difference between sex and gender.
It’s been steadily going down the toilet since Warwick Roger and his wife left , amongst other things they’ve been obsessed with writing stories about convicted murderers being innocent . Hope they get new management who are less woke , it’s garbage now.
I didn't even realise it was even in existence
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@canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
North and Souths latest issue has a cover story written by Nicky Hagar alleging they are guilty of war crimes and rapes . There’s also a story about the difference between sex and gender.
It’s been steadily going down the toilet since Warwick Roger and his wife left , amongst other things they’ve been obsessed with writing stories about convicted murderers being innocent . Hope they get new management who are less woke , it’s garbage now.
I didn't even realise it was even in existence
It was great once , used to do things like pointing out the damage the pro disease nutters are doing or the militancy of midwives leading to the deaths of babies.and some great longform articles.
Now it’s just mostly rubbish , you can’t publish an article from Hagar and retain credibility. -
@dogmeat said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@jegga NZ agrees with you.
Readership down 20% in last 12 mths
http://www.roymorgan.com/industries/media/readership/readership-new-zealand
Thats a huge hit, sad to see but not all that surprising.
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@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@dogmeat said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@jegga NZ agrees with you.
Readership down 20% in last 12 mths
http://www.roymorgan.com/industries/media/readership/readership-new-zealand
Thats a huge hit, sad to see but not all that surprising.
I wonder if they will heed the warning and change tact....or double down..
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@rembrandt said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@dogmeat said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@jegga NZ agrees with you.
Readership down 20% in last 12 mths
http://www.roymorgan.com/industries/media/readership/readership-new-zealand
Thats a huge hit, sad to see but not all that surprising.
I wonder if they will heed the warning and change tact....or double down..
I could be out on a limb here but I don't think I'm the only person in New Zealand who thinks Ewen McGregor is more than likely guilty. He used a hammer to bash in the heads of calves, harassed his brother in law for months and burned down his house because he hated him so much. North and South have written three stories trying to prove he's innocent, they tried the same thing with Lundy too and the guy who killed those kids in the Sounds. Putting aside the idiot politics they've decided to follow championing the cause of someone who was found guilty by two juries of killing daughter with a tomahawk and someone who in all likelihood got away with murder is going to be a huge turnoff for readers.
tl:dr, they are fucked.
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@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@rembrandt said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@dogmeat said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@jegga NZ agrees with you.
Readership down 20% in last 12 mths
http://www.roymorgan.com/industries/media/readership/readership-new-zealand
Thats a huge hit, sad to see but not all that surprising.
I wonder if they will heed the warning and change tact....or double down..
I could be out on a limb here but I don't think I'm the only person in New Zealand who thinks Ewen McGregor is more than likely guilty. He used a hammer to bash in the heads of calves, harassed his brother in law for months and burned down his house because he hated him so much. North and South have written three stories trying to prove he's innocent, they tried the same thing with Lundy too and the guy who killed those kids in the Sounds. Putting aside the idiot politics they've decided to follow championing the cause of someone who was found guilty by two juries of killing daughter with a tomahawk and someone who in all likelihood got away with murder is going to be a huge turnoff for readers.
tl:dr, they are fucked.
Did they back David Bain too? Let them fade away
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@canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@rembrandt said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@dogmeat said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@jegga NZ agrees with you.
Readership down 20% in last 12 mths
http://www.roymorgan.com/industries/media/readership/readership-new-zealand
Thats a huge hit, sad to see but not all that surprising.
I wonder if they will heed the warning and change tact....or double down..
I could be out on a limb here but I don't think I'm the only person in New Zealand who thinks Ewen McGregor is more than likely guilty. He used a hammer to bash in the heads of calves, harassed his brother in law for months and burned down his house because he hated him so much. North and South have written three stories trying to prove he's innocent, they tried the same thing with Lundy too and the guy who killed those kids in the Sounds. Putting aside the idiot politics they've decided to follow championing the cause of someone who was found guilty by two juries of killing daughter with a tomahawk and someone who in all likelihood got away with murder is going to be a huge turnoff for readers.
tl:dr, they are fucked.
Did they back David Bain too? Let them fade away
They gave the for and against arguments on that one .
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Speak for yourself sister.
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@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@rembrandt said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@dogmeat said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@jegga NZ agrees with you.
Readership down 20% in last 12 mths
http://www.roymorgan.com/industries/media/readership/readership-new-zealand
Thats a huge hit, sad to see but not all that surprising.
I wonder if they will heed the warning and change tact....or double down..
I could be out on a limb here but I don't think I'm the only person in New Zealand who thinks Ewen McGregor is more than likely guilty. He used a hammer to bash in the heads of calves, harassed his brother in law for months and burned down his house because he hated him so much. North and South have written three stories trying to prove he's innocent, they tried the same thing with Lundy too and the guy who killed those kids in the Sounds. Putting aside the idiot politics they've decided to follow championing the cause of someone who was found guilty by two juries of killing daughter with a tomahawk and someone who in all likelihood got away with murder is going to be a huge turnoff for readers.
tl:dr, they are fucked.
Did they back David Bain too? Let them fade away
They gave the for and against arguments on that one .
By the way, it's worth reading the Lundy judgement. I skimmed a lot of it (ANORAK ALERT) and it was bloody fascinating.
Came away pretty convinced. I don't think he should have been convicted on Trial 1 as the Police theory was absolutely farked, but looks by all accounts that he did it.
Also, what worries me is you can get convicted (beyond reasonable doubt) based on police theories that are completely farked. The Lundy Five Hundy was born from it, but just not credible to actually ever do that trip, at that time.
summary for media:
https://www.courtsofnz.govt.nz/cases/lundy-v-r/@@images/fileMediaNotes?r=964.476955Judgement:
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@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
Speak for yourself sister.
Back in the pre-internet days the Farmers catalogs were a hugely important part of a young mans life.
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@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@rembrandt said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@dogmeat said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@jegga NZ agrees with you.
Readership down 20% in last 12 mths
http://www.roymorgan.com/industries/media/readership/readership-new-zealand
Thats a huge hit, sad to see but not all that surprising.
I wonder if they will heed the warning and change tact....or double down..
I could be out on a limb here but I don't think I'm the only person in New Zealand who thinks Ewen McGregor is more than likely guilty. He used a hammer to bash in the heads of calves, harassed his brother in law for months and burned down his house because he hated him so much. North and South have written three stories trying to prove he's innocent, they tried the same thing with Lundy too and the guy who killed those kids in the Sounds. Putting aside the idiot politics they've decided to follow championing the cause of someone who was found guilty by two juries of killing daughter with a tomahawk and someone who in all likelihood got away with murder is going to be a huge turnoff for readers.
tl:dr, they are fucked.
Careful. You'll stir up @Crucial
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@booboo said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@rembrandt said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@dogmeat said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@jegga NZ agrees with you.
Readership down 20% in last 12 mths
http://www.roymorgan.com/industries/media/readership/readership-new-zealand
Thats a huge hit, sad to see but not all that surprising.
I wonder if they will heed the warning and change tact....or double down..
I could be out on a limb here but I don't think I'm the only person in New Zealand who thinks Ewen McGregor is more than likely guilty. He used a hammer to bash in the heads of calves, harassed his brother in law for months and burned down his house because he hated him so much. North and South have written three stories trying to prove he's innocent, they tried the same thing with Lundy too and the guy who killed those kids in the Sounds. Putting aside the idiot politics they've decided to follow championing the cause of someone who was found guilty by two juries of killing daughter with a tomahawk and someone who in all likelihood got away with murder is going to be a huge turnoff for readers.
tl:dr, they are fucked.
Careful. You'll stir up @Crucial
Ha!
I don't think I have ever championed Lundy's innocence.
My interest with these cases is simply in our legal process and how such obvious bullshit (such as the first prosecution case) manages to convict someone.
Then, of course, things get into incredible legal tangles when you have to disprove something rather than prove it.
I just find it interesting to follow, and debate, the situation whether it's Lundy, Watson, Macdonald.....
BTW, with Ewen Macdonald, I think it's a case of right person, very wrong scenario. -
@kirwan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@nepia said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@jegga Reddit isn't any really different than twitter and they've been writing based on that for years now.
I'm just disappointed they haven't written anything from the Fern threads.
Almost certainly has been. Some of the Tana apologists were writing point by point rebuttals of posts on here at times.
Shit! I didn't realise that! Where do I claim my fee?
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@crucial said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
My interest with these cases is simply in our legal process and how such obvious bullshit (such as the first prosecution case) manages to convict someone.
I'm sure we all agree that when someone is obviously guilty, there's not a problem manufacturing evidence to assist a conviction.
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@no-quarter said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
Back in the pre-internet days the Farmers catalogs were a hugely important part of a young mans life.
The columnist does have a point that the ads could be better - no bras at all for example would appeal to many.
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@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@rembrandt said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@dogmeat said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@jegga NZ agrees with you.
Readership down 20% in last 12 mths
http://www.roymorgan.com/industries/media/readership/readership-new-zealand
Thats a huge hit, sad to see but not all that surprising.
I wonder if they will heed the warning and change tact....or double down..
I could be out on a limb here but I don't think I'm the only person in New Zealand who thinks Ewen McGregor is more than likely guilty. He used a hammer to bash in the heads of calves, harassed his brother in law for months and burned down his house because he hated him so much. North and South have written three stories trying to prove he's innocent, they tried the same thing with Lundy too and the guy who killed those kids in the Sounds. Putting aside the idiot politics they've decided to follow championing the cause of someone who was found guilty by two juries of killing daughter with a tomahawk and someone who in all likelihood got away with murder is going to be a huge turnoff for readers.
tl:dr, they are fucked.
The only thing Ewen McGregor is guilty of is being as dishy as fuck.
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@smudge said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@rembrandt said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@dogmeat said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@jegga NZ agrees with you.
Readership down 20% in last 12 mths
http://www.roymorgan.com/industries/media/readership/readership-new-zealand
Thats a huge hit, sad to see but not all that surprising.
I wonder if they will heed the warning and change tact....or double down..
I could be out on a limb here but I don't think I'm the only person in New Zealand who thinks Ewen McGregor is more than likely guilty. He used a hammer to bash in the heads of calves, harassed his brother in law for months and burned down his house because he hated him so much. North and South have written three stories trying to prove he's innocent, they tried the same thing with Lundy too and the guy who killed those kids in the Sounds. Putting aside the idiot politics they've decided to follow championing the cause of someone who was found guilty by two juries of killing daughter with a tomahawk and someone who in all likelihood got away with murder is going to be a huge turnoff for readers.
tl:dr, they are fucked.
The only thing Ewen McGregor is guilty of is being as dishy as fuck.
I fucked in but you’re the one who went and made it weird.