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  • Chester DrawsC Offline
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    It annoys me when our reputation is allegedly tarnished by catching cheats.

    Presumably Russia, which never catches any of its cheats, isn't tarnished by that logic.

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    Only 80 is my first thought ...

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    Four players have been banned by the New Zealand Rugby following anti-doping hearings.
    
    Zoey Berry, Rhys Pedersen, Glen Robertson and Ben Qauqau-Dodds have all been handed bans.
    
    Berry played one test for the Black Ferns in 2012 in a tour of England. Robertson was a member of the New Zealand under-20 squad in 2010. Qauqau-Dodds and Pedersen played club rugby in Dunedin and Manawatu respectively.
    
    Berry, Pedersen, and Robertson have been banned from playing rugby for the possession and, in some cases, use or attempted use of Clenbuterol and Qauqau-Dodds has been banned for the possession and use or attempted use of Metandienone.
    
    Clenbuterol and Metandienone are both prohibited substances under the NZ Sports Anti-Doping Rules.
    
    All athletes pleaded guilty to at least one of the offences alleged.
    
    The New Zealand Rugby Judicial Committee has ordered the suspension of Berry for four years commencing on 31 July 2017, Pedersen for 21 months from 1 January 2017, Robertson for four years from 3 February 2017 and Qauqau-Dodds for two years commencing on 31 July 2017. All four athletes were playing club rugby at the time of the offending.
    
    They are the first rugby cases heard following the revelation in the Weekend Herald that more than 100 athletes registered with national sporting organisations had been caught illegally purchasing steroids from the website clenbuterol.co.nz.
    
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    Four rugby players suspended for doping offences

    Four rugby players suspended for doping offences

    Four players have been banned by New Zealand Rugby following anti-doping hearings. Zoey Berry, Rhys Pedersen, Glen Robertson and Ben Qauqau-Dodds have all

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    @stargazer How stupid to you have to be to buy online from a site named clenbuterol.co.nz?

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    @catogrande said in Doping in NZ...:

    @stargazer How stupid to you have to be to buy online from a site named clenbuterol.co.nz?

    Awesome marketing for that Website though

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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/101581562/te-awamutu-club-rugby-player-jacob-nield-accepts-fouryear-ban-for-doping

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    @tim

    It’s usually nice to hear news from home, but it seems that somehow I was dipping out on the good stuff back in the day.

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    Some Dopers cheat in other parts of their life too.

    Stuff
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    @mikedogz said in Doping in NZ...:

    Some Dopers cheat in other parts of their life too.

    Stuff

    She's a disgrace, can't believe they keep using her as the marketing face of the Christchurch Marathon

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    Not NZ but doping at a lower level in SA.

    Cynics might suggest this won't come as a great surprise ...

    Stuff
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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/113070445/drug-free-sport-nz-dealt-hefty-criticism-by-nz-rugby-review-body-in-latest-clenbuterol-ruling

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    Resurrecting this topic for general discussion on PEDs and general doping in sport as I saw this "article" in the Herald and thought it deserved a comment.

    It's not exactly PEDs and I read it as I wondered who the "star" was.

    It was headlined to seem like there is a major painkiller problem in rugby, but it's pretty obvious that it is nothing more than an advert.

    Find this sort of advertising distasteful.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12299659

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    @booboo said in Doping in NZ...:

    It was headlined to seem like there is a major painkiller problem in rugby, but it's pretty obvious that it is nothing more than an advert.
    Find this sort of advertising distasteful.

    I saw that too and it is complete bollocks. I wonder if he actually paid to have that "article" written / published?

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    "Grayson Hart, who played sporadically for the Blues and Waratahs between 2008 and 2013"

    Goodness, peoples opinions on what you must achieve to be labelled a "star" can vary markedly.

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    @Higgins I think if you do something naughty and you play rugby (or any high profile sport in NZ) you become a 'rugby star did this...' type

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    Saw this paper today, which I thought was pretty interesting.

    Using liposomes (lipid bilayer particles) to encapsulate haemoglobin for continuous release. Would increase haemoglobin availability (for oxygen carrying), while potentially not exceeding doping thresholds.

    Liposomes as potential masking agents in sport doping. Part 2: Detection of liposome‐entrapped haemoglobin by flow cytofluorimetry

    Haemoglobin delivered by liposome vesicles (liposome‐encapsulated haemoglobins, LEHs), first proposed as blood substitutes nearly 30 years ago,13 are a particular subclass of artificial oxygen carriers currently in preclinical development and represent a potential breakthrough in the field of blood substitutes.14-16 The long circulating liposome‐based drug delivery system, thanks to the presence of poly(ethylene glycol) derivatized phospholipids, allows for a prolonged delivery of oxygen to the tissues and reduced immunogenicity.17-19

    Apart from their multiple clinical applications and promising therapeutic utility, LEHs, as well as other HBOCs, could in principle also be misused in sport doping practice, with the specific aim to increase the oxygen carrying capacity of the blood.20, 21 As such, they fall into category ‘M1 – Manipulation of Blood and Blood Components’ of the WADA list of prohibited substances and methods, which covers not only blood transfusions, but also, specifically, HBOCs, in Subsection 2: ‘Artificially enhancing the uptake, transport or delivery of oxygen. Including, but not limited to perfluorochemicals; efaproxiral (RSR13) and modified haemoglobin products, e.g. haemoglobin‐based blood substitutes and microencapsulated haemoglobin products, excluding supplemental oxygen’.9

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    @Tim the science will just keep pushing on. I watch a fair bit of weightlifting and powerlifting content and people are def trying new stuff in that arena. At least they have options for clean v not unlike athletics etc. But Olympic weightlifting is def battling hard out doping, kind of like cycling where it's a matter of when, rather than if, people will get found out.

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    @Paekakboyz said in Doping in NZ...:

    @Tim the science will just keep pushing on. I watch a fair bit of weightlifting and powerlifting content and people are def trying new stuff in that arena. At least they have options for clean v not unlike athletics etc. But Olympic weightlifting is def battling hard out doping, kind of like cycling where it's a matter of when, rather than if, people will get found out.

    The dopers are one step ahead

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    @canefan or more aye! Although it is interesting that some of the never methods are seemingly less damaging or risky, at least in the weightlifting scene. Aside from putting an unhealthy level of muscle mass on your frame of course!

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    @Paekakboyz said in Doping in NZ...:

    @canefan or more aye! Although it is interesting that some of the never methods are seemingly less damaging or risky, at least in the weightlifting scene. Aside from putting an unhealthy level of muscle mass on your frame of course!

    I guess they need to be increasingly difficult to detect so they need to be more subtle

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