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  • MN5M Offline
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    @Chris-B said in Black Caps v Bangladesh:

    We've got a batting line-up that could flounder us a world cup on their day, but I don't think we've got the bowlers - other than Boult.

    Lochie is quick, but inconsistent.

    Matt Henry can bowl a decent opening spell, but doesn't have enough variations to be a decent option at the death.

    Neesh can't bowl a consistent line - he's straying down leg regularly.

    Timmy's stats are very poor since the last CWC.

    CdG is cannon fodder unless conditions suit him.

    Santner is ok as a spinner, but he's no world beater in terms of taking wickets.

    Ish can't bowl six good deliveries in an over - and hence is under pressure from Astle.

    Probably your most accurate post ever. For the love of god Trent stay fit.

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    @Chris-B said in Black Caps v Bangladesh:

    We've got a batting line-up that could flounder us a world cup on their day, but I don't think we've got the bowlers - other than Boult.

    Lochie is quick, but inconsistent.

    Matt Henry can bowl a decent opening spell, but doesn't have enough variations to be a decent option at the death.

    Neesh can't bowl a consistent line - he's straying down leg regularly.

    Timmy's stats are very poor since the last CWC.

    CdG is cannon fodder unless conditions suit him.

    Santner is ok as a spinner, but he's no world beater in terms of taking wickets.

    Ish can't bowl six good deliveries in an over - and hence is under pressure from Astle.

    One small thing to count towards Henry is that he bowls up a storm in england.

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  • RapidoR Offline
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    replied to Hooroo on last edited by Rapido
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    @Hooroo said in Black Caps v Bangladesh:

    @Chris-B said in Black Caps v Bangladesh:

    We've got a batting line-up that could flounder us a world cup on their day, but I don't think we've got the bowlers - other than Boult.

    Lochie is quick, but inconsistent.

    Matt Henry can bowl a decent opening spell, but doesn't have enough variations to be a decent option at the death.

    Neesh can't bowl a consistent line - he's straying down leg regularly.

    Timmy's stats are very poor since the last CWC.

    CdG is cannon fodder unless conditions suit him.

    Santner is ok as a spinner, but he's no world beater in terms of taking wickets.

    Ish can't bowl six good deliveries in an over - and hence is under pressure from Astle.

    One small thing to count towards Henry is that he bowls up a storm in england.

    That's not really true in white-ball cricket.

    He bowled up a storm in the county championship, in the second division. with the red duke.

    His record with the white kookaburra was mediocre.

    Kent, 2018:
    First Class: 11 matches, 75 wickets at 15.48
    List A: 11 matches, 16 wicket at 34.33 (econ 5.55)

    I'd still have him over Southee though.

    If I was to make a change, it wouldn't be Southee (or Bracewell). I'd like it if Milne returned, Ferguson and Boult to open, Milne to bowl first change and middle overs. All 3 capable of bowling at the death.

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    @Hooroo Although I'd give that an asterisk - *in County cricket.

    Let's hope he has a World Cup in England, like Geoff Allott

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    Who's our best bowler when it comes to bowling yorkers? Whoever that is, save them for the final 10 overs.

    The BCs (and ground keepers) also have to accept that spin bowling is the way forward in ODI and T20s.

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    @Rapido Milne played a T20 game a few days ago.

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  • RapidoR Offline
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    @Chris-B said in Black Caps v Bangladesh:

    @Rapido Milne played a T20 game a few days ago.

    Yeah.

    I expect him to make the squad actually, but as 5th seamer (at expense of Bracewell).

    My preference would be him in the starting 11, as I said above, if he is in reasonable form.

    I have no idea where Milne stands in Gary Stead's pecking order.

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    Here is a (stupidly small sample size) list of our recent ODI bowling in England.

    I chose since the end of last world cup (as that is when England got good at ODIs after Bayliss took over). This would also include the Champions Trophy v whoever we played (I have no recollection of that tournament).

    Bowling records | One-Day Internationals | Cricinfo Statsguru | ESPNcricinfo.com

    Bowling records | One-Day Internationals | Cricinfo Statsguru | ESPNcricinfo.com

    and the complete record for the same time period:

    Bowling records | One-Day Internationals | Cricinfo Statsguru | ESPNcricinfo.com

    Bowling records | One-Day Internationals | Cricinfo Statsguru | ESPNcricinfo.com
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    @Chris-B said in Black Caps v Bangladesh:

    We've got a batting line-up that could flounder us a world cup on their day, but I don't think we've got the bowlers - other than Boult.

    Lochie is quick, but inconsistent.

    Matt Henry can bowl a decent opening spell, but doesn't have enough variations to be a decent option at the death.

    Neesh can't bowl a consistent line - he's straying down leg regularly.

    Timmy's stats are very poor since the last CWC.

    CdG is cannon fodder unless conditions suit him.

    Santner is ok as a spinner, but he's no world beater in terms of taking wickets.

    Ish can't bowl six good deliveries in an over - and hence is under pressure from Astle.

    Agree with that. I think Henry's ability to take early wickets in combination with Boult should put him ahead of the pack, as early wickets are going to be key to stopping teams getting 370+

    We lack quality death bowlers - I think a lot of teams do, it's nearly impossible bowling in the final 10. I think Boult and Ferg are our best bet to close out the innings at the moment.

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  • MN5M Offline
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    @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v Bangladesh:

    @Chris-B said in Black Caps v Bangladesh:

    We've got a batting line-up that could flounder us a world cup on their day, but I don't think we've got the bowlers - other than Boult.

    Lochie is quick, but inconsistent.

    Matt Henry can bowl a decent opening spell, but doesn't have enough variations to be a decent option at the death.

    Neesh can't bowl a consistent line - he's straying down leg regularly.

    Timmy's stats are very poor since the last CWC.

    CdG is cannon fodder unless conditions suit him.

    Santner is ok as a spinner, but he's no world beater in terms of taking wickets.

    Ish can't bowl six good deliveries in an over - and hence is under pressure from Astle.

    Agree with that. I think Henry's ability to take early wickets in combination with Boult should put him ahead of the pack, as early wickets are going to be key to stopping teams getting 370+

    We lack quality death bowlers - I think a lot of teams do, it's nearly impossible bowling in the final 10. I think Boult and Ferg are our best bet to close out the innings at the moment.

    Well yeah with the way the game is now any over for under 10 runs in the final 10 overs is a great effort.

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  • Crazy HorseC Offline
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    @Chris-B said in Black Caps v Bangladesh:

    @Rapido Milne played a T20 game a few days ago.

    He should be broken by Monday then.

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  • DamoD Offline
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    We won the toss and are bowling.

    Clearly the right move game-wise, but I kinda wish we had batted first. We won't learn much if we roll Bangladesh for not much and chase it easily.

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    replied to Damo on last edited by
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    @Damo said in Black Caps v Bangladesh:

    We won the toss and are bowling.

    Clearly the right move game-wise, but I kinda wish we had batted first. We won't learn much if we roll Bangladesh for not much and chase it easily.

    Yip. I doubt we are going to learn much from this series.

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    What's with Rosscoe's hands?

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  • KruseK Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #55

    Fuck I love it when insomnia leads me to checking the cricket score, and seeing an immediate wicket, and the BCs storming through a line-up something like 93/5.
    Sleep - over-rated... let's open a bottle of wine.

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  • MN5M Offline
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    @booboo said in Black Caps v Bangladesh:

    What's with Rosscoe's hands?

    Just came back from a stroll and saw a replay of him dropping a couple of relative dollies.

    Very unlike him.

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    We could be chasing 260 odd here.

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  • DamoD Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
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    Bangers are doing OK now. Good on them. I hope they set us a big total and we have to play well to chase it down.

    Thre's been too many one sided ODI's this year. Has there been a close one yet?

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  • DamoD Offline
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    replied to hydro11 on last edited by
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    @hydro11 said in Black Caps v Bangladesh:

    We could be chasing 260 odd here.

    We might be chasing 300 odd. They're 168/5 with 16 overs to go and going along pretty easily. 8 an over gets them to 296.

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  • CyclopsC Offline
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    Just noticed that if Henry can take two wickets a match for the next 11 games he'll be the fastest ever NZ bowler to 100 ODI wickets (a match or two ahead of Bond).

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