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Virgil

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Now your just fucking showing off...
 
Heres mine, not bad from the wops of Helensville.
 
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Nepia

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Now your just fucking showing off...
 
Heres mine, not bad from the wops of Helensville.
 
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That's just showing off too ... although TBF it is coming from Keyville. 
 
We both got a grade B though. :)

antipodean

As long as when I move to property somewhere near Hokitika I can get comparable internet to what I currently have at home, I'll be happy.

Virgil

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That's just showing off too ... although TBF it is coming from Keyville. 
 
We both got a grade B though. :)
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We have been here 5 1/2 years now, when we first arrived we were put on a waiting list to hook up to broadband. It took nearly a year, in which time we had to endure dial up.
Id say since then our speeds have quadrupled.
 
Your upload speeds arent that great though.

Nepia

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We have been here 5 1/2 years now, when we first arrived we were put on a waiting list to hook up to broadband. It took nearly a year, in which time we had to endure dial up.
Id say since then our speeds have quadrupled.
 
Your upload speeds arent that great though.
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Neither are the download's ... Sydney has cabbage internet, and it took us over a month to get it hooked up in the city. Bonkers.

NTA

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You're a fluffybunny, and I hate you.
 
 
 
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The only time it will be better than this is between Christmas and New Year when no other bastard is around. I peaked at like 9MBps last year!

Virgil

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You're a fluffybunny, and I hate you.
 
 
 
<img src="http://www.speedtest.net/result/3988166335.png" alt="3988166335.png">
 
The only time it will be better than this is between Christmas and New Year when no other bastard is around. I peaked at like 9MBps last year!
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Wow didnt know how shit the interweb is in OZ.
Tell me again why so many kiwis are jumping the fence and shifting over?

Crucial

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You're a fluffybunny, and I hate you.
 
 
 
<img src="http://www.speedtest.net/result/3988166335.png" alt="3988166335.png">
 
The only time it will be better than this is between Christmas and New Year when no other bastard is around. I peaked at like 9MBps last year!
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Yeah, that was from work and done just to piss you off.
 
This is home, 5.15pm as all the kiddies are on youtube.
 
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Crucial

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Wow didnt know how shit the interweb is in OZ.
Tell me again why so many kiwis are jumping the fence and shifting over?
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That's kind of the point. As the gap widens further there will be plenty of Oz dwellers deciding that maybe NZ is the place to run their business from.

Crucial

Those Oz ones from Nick and Nepia show almost no upload speed at all. The ISP must be choking the up to squeeze out as much down as they can. They will be screwed as soon as their customers wake up to the opportunities of cloud and providing services from uploading.

Virgil

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That's kind of the point. As the gap widens further there will be plenty of Oz dwellers deciding that maybe NZ is the place to run their business from.
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I would never consider living anywhere without decent speeds, its like checking the quality of the water and who your electricity supplier is.
 
Crucial is that ADSL2/VDSL or fibre your running off?

NTA

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Those Oz ones from Nick and Nepia show almost no upload speed at all. The ISP must be choking the up to squeeze out as much down as they can. They will be screwed as soon as their customers wake up to the opportunities of cloud and providing services from uploading.
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That's the idea behind NBN - the Fibre-To-The-Node plan is going to deliver minimal benefits to upload because copper. Fibre was meant to take us from Asymmetrical DSL to something more useful

Crucial

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VDSL at about 300m from the cabinet. Around the maximums you'll get anyway. 
Nick, that is copper with FTTN. You don't need FTTH for decent speed but that's about the current limit.

antipodean

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I assume that is on coax is it Antipodean? I think they call is hybrid fibre over there. The stuff laid for cable TV originally like the Saturn/voda network in Welly and ChCh over here. 
Great speeds at present but little room for future improvements. Damn sight better than the shit Nick is getting.

antipodean

Nah, just VDSL2. Hopefully we'll be upgraded to fibre soon.

Crucial

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Nah, just VDSL2. Hopefully we'll be upgraded to fibre soon.
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That's a great profile for VDSL then. Must be close to the node for that (probably in building if a multi dwelling situation).
You don't really need fibre for some time at those speeds unless you are planning on live streaming your activities to the outside world in HD ;)
VOD is going to be by far the biggest driver in speed requirements and uptake. It won't be long until everyone in the house wants to be watching an HD stream of their selected viewing at the same time.
You need around 6Mbps dedicated to the stream for one HD show so ADSL speeds are going to struggle with multiple users. VOD providers also want to guarantee a certain quality for their subscribers so there is demand from the supply side as well.
We are certainly heading down the right path in NZ with FTTH. Lots of room for future proofing when you are building a network where you can't yet imagine the tech in a household that would get close to using the capacity you are providing.

Kirwan

I got my fibre a few weeks ago, and averages 90m down and 20m up. Reason I can't show my pretty picture? Bloody thing has been down since Friday. Sigh.

Crucial

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I would never consider living anywhere without decent speeds, its like checking the quality of the water and who your electricity supplier is.
 
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It's amazing how many people say that internet connection is vital for them yet don't check the situation before building/buying/moving.
There is often some idiot moaning in the paper about how he's trying to run a web based business from his home (which turns out to be a lifestyle block 3km out of town) yet struggles with international time zones conflicting with heavy usage periods on his ADSL connection etc etc. 
That's like trying to run a truck distribution depot from a property down an unsealed road, through a residential suburb and onto choked commuter routes. You simply wouldn't even attempt it. You'd put your depot close to the highway.
I would be very happy to leave Wellington and live in the backblocks in the South Island, contracting services for work for 3 days a week to support myself but to pitch a good business case to the boss for that I'd need a VDSL connection minimum.

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