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<p>BE WARNED though - some of these "craft brewers" like Matilda Bay and Little Creatures are under ownership by large companies, and therefore in danger of being brewed to a price, like most of the mass-produced shit here.</p>
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<p>Funnily enough, despite the initial misgivings held when Lion brought out Emersons here in NZ, that hasn't happened at all. What has happened is that Emersons have better distribution access, can sell more and have had $$$$ invested in building a new brewery. No change in recipes or quality. Little Creatures is also in the Lion stable and Lion (for now) seem happy not to kill the goose. They buy these breweries to get a share in the CB market not to kill it. They have other brands to do 'accountant versions' of styles with.</p>
<p>Emerson's and Little Creature now consider themselves sister breweries and collaborate on ideas and techniques.</p>
<p>Matilda Bay, however was an example of how the big breweries in the 90s tried to deal with the emerging CB market by buying it out and shitting all over it. Taking Australias first real commercial CB brand (primarily Redback), taking it from it's roots in WA and shifting all production to one of their malt beverage factories in Tasmania. At least the original owners got to pocket the $50M purchase, wait a few years and start Little Creatures.</p>
<p>The market has matured enough now that consumers won't stand for the type of tactic used in the Matilda Bay days. They will just shift from the brand to another. The big boys realise this now and will just invest in the market which IMO is a really good thing. Although it's fun for the consumer to have dozens of boutique breweries around, only a handful will ever become any more than just small and boutique. That's fine for a small family income but also means the consumer doesn't get the benefits of availability and often has to stumble across things as a one off.</p>
<p>One big advantage we have in NZ over OZ, and the main reason why our CB choice and market is so far ahead is that we have a distribution advantage compared to them. Smaller country, easier to distribute product. It has always been an issue in the Oz market for any boutique product (wine, food products etc) so for them, having investment (in the right way) from the big breweries would be a positive for the consumer.</p> -
<p>Not saying it WILL happen, but warning in case it DOES happen.</p>
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<p>As for distribution advantage - yes being a smaller country could be helpful. But if you are brewing good beer anywhere near Sydney, you've got a population the size of NZ in which to distribute, and you can access it using a station wagon.</p> -
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<p>Not saying it WILL happen, but warning in case it DOES happen.</p>
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<p>As for distribution advantage - yes being a smaller country could be helpful. But if you are brewing good beer anywhere near Sydney, you've got a population the size of NZ in which to distribute, and you can access it using a station wagon.</p>
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<p>As I said, with Matilda Bay it already has. The iconic Perth brand is now brewed at Cascade in Tassie.</p> -
<p>"How To Be A Beer Enthusiast Without Being A Beer Asshole"</p>
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<p>Here's one for you Tim.</p>
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<p>From Emersons</p>
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<div>‘North by North’</div>
<div>Czech style Pilsner</div>
<div>Back in 2012 we released our North by North Czech style pilsner as part of our Dunedin Sound series. North by North was named in honour of the Christchurch band The Bats.</div>
<div>The Bats, have strong links to Dunedin and are usually grouped in with the Dunedin Sound bands through their association with the record label Flying Nun. Bob Scott, vocals and guitar, lives in Port Chalmers, and often enjoys Emerson’s at our local Inchbar. We are huge fans of these guys and were happy to claim them in our Dunedin Sound Series for an excuse to brew a great classic Czech style Pilsner. The release of the band’s new album in 2012 ‘Free all the Monsters’ encouraged us to brew the original ‘monster’ Czech style pilsner we called North by North after their hit of the same name.</div>
<div>North by North is a wee monster in many ways but what we are most proud of is the long, long, maturation or lagering, we give ‘North by North’. Three long months in fact. Long lagering creates a pilsner with a rich, mellow almost ‘honeyish’ malt flavour, backed up by generous amounts of Czech Saaz hop to provide a crisp firm finish. In the mainstream brewing world long lagering times are a no-no, it ties up too much tank space for too long – brewery accountants hate it! Brewers love it – North by North is a testament to doing something well and doing it right;</div>
<div>100% Czech malt, 100% Czech hops, Czech Yeast – No compromise</div>
<div>We know you will appreciate this Pilsner, try it side by side a typical Euro style ‘lager’ and taste the difference, you’ll see why we are proud of this beer. We have brewed twice as much North by North this time around – 180 kegs of beautiful brewing history, much of this reserved for Friday staff beersies at the brewery – naw… just kidding.</div>
<div>Here’s to Summer and great beer wherever you are!</div>
<div>The Brew Crew</div>
<div>Original gravity: 1055</div>
<div>Alcohol: 5.4 % vol</div>
<div>Malts: Czech Bohemian Pilsner malt</div>
<div>Hops: Czech Saaz</div>
<div>Yeast: Czech Pilsner</div>
<div>Available on draught from the brewery shop, and select bars and outlets.</div>
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<p>When I was in Melbourne a couple of weeks back, I went in to a bottle store at the end of the St Kilda shops (right where the 96 tram stops). It's got a very impressive range of different beers, including a decent selection of NZ beer too. The bloke in the shop knew his stuff too.</p>
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<p>Mostly stocked up on a few random Euro beers I find hard to source in NZ: Stiegl (Austria), Diebels Alt, S<span>ünner</span> K<span>ö</span>lsch (Germany) and Feral Hop Hog</p>
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<p>I quite enjoy Mountain Goat. I had some at Beervana last year, and had a couple when I was over in Oz.</p> -
<p>was smashing some of these the other day - found it really well balanced summer drop... could defo drink it all night long.</p>
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<p>was smashing some of these the other day - found it really well balanced summer drop... could defo drink it all night long.</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://garageproject.co.nz/products/hapi-daze'>http://garageproject.co.nz/products/hapi-daze</a></p>
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<p>Nice drop that one. Particularly like that they can it too which makes it both handy to travel with and (being a smaller size) cheaper to buy a unit of. </p>
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<p>Supplies are getting difficult though now that Auckland has finally woken up to the craft market and all the bars up there want to stock variety. The Auckland brewing scene is not big enough to supply anywhere near the population needs and the Welly brewers in particular are getting hammered to keep up. Panhead have only been operating for a short while and have increased their capacity twice in 12 months to try and keep up.</p> -
<p>I'm drinking diet beer at the moment and the only one I like so far is Speights Mid Ale. Actually resembles a beer rather than Amstel light etc.</p>
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<p>Anyone know of any other (Craft or otherwise) light beers that taste ok?</p>
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<p>I seem to have finally worked out the home brew system that suits me. I tried full grain brewing but without having dedicated space and setting aside a whole day just to get to the wort stage it wasn't working for me. Tried going for the more expensive and better quality kits and while they turned out quite good and I had a big supply of quite tasty beer in the garage it was missing the part where I get to add my own touch.</p>
<p>So my next experiment was to get a couple of cans of the 'cheaper' brew kits (a Brown Ale and a Stout), blend them together to make a Porter, cut the water quantity by 25% to up the alc level a touch (as they all seem to brew out at around 4%). This left me with enough wort for one large brew (23 litres) and a couple of 5 litre brews.</p>
<p>The large brew took a big wallop of hops to make a Cascadian Ale style (a bit like Yeastie Boys PKB) and the others I tried a couple of different quantities of toasted coconut and vanilla.</p>
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<p>I'm drinking diet beer at the moment and the only one I like so far is Speights Mid Ale. Actually resembles a beer rather than Amstel light etc.</p>
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<p>Anyone know of any other (Craft or otherwise) light beers that taste ok?</p>
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<p>Must be well under 4%</p>
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<p>Tuatara Iti 3.3% look for the red box among the Tuatara six packs in the supermarket</p>
<p>Croucher Lowrider 2.7%</p>
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<p>Macs Chilli & Lime cider, was a bit skeptical, and first mouthful I was so so, but as I drank more, and the little hit of chilli came along, it really grew on me, really refreshing with a great finish!</p> -
That's lovely. Did your husband enjoy it as well?
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<p>That's lovely. Did your husband enjoy it as well?</p>
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<br><p>OK Randy Savage, I seen some of the drinks you drink....</p>
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<p>raiding the facebook for a comeback? for shame...</p>
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<p>No shame in a moscow mule my friend. </p>
