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    @Smudge said in Paywall at NZ Herald...:

    I've signed up at the introductory $2.50/week for the first 8 weeks. Been a bit light on time to actually read it since yesterday, but there have been a few good Premium NZ Herald-generated pieces that I've read so far.

    Shill!!!! We have been infiltrated!

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    Don't post the extension or the javascript please

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    As for the 'paywall' holy shit that is a pathetic effort

    If the user doesn't have an account, the query should be only return the first part of the article. Instead, they are returning the entire article and using css to hide a portion of it.

    That is unbelievably crap

    Surely this is a temporary solution and they haven't implemented their final code??

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    And to answer the discussion we removed, I don't believe it's theft as they have given you the content and then half-assed hiding it.

    That extension will be against the terms of service of the extension store though, and shouldn't last long.

    Seriously, that is amateur hour stuff. Embarrassingly bad, has to be a temporary solution.

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    @Duluth said in Paywall at NZ Herald...:

    As for the 'paywall' holy shit that is a pathetic effort

    If the user doesn't have an account, the query should be only return the first part of the article. Instead, they are returning the entire article and using css to hide a portion of it.

    That is unbelievably crap

    Surely this is a temporary solution and they haven't implemented their final code??

    A lot of overseas papers do the same .

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    Seems like they've found the perfect content to entice $$ from people...

    link text

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    @Duluth said in Paywall at NZ Herald...:

    As for the 'paywall' holy shit that is a pathetic effort

    If the user doesn't have an account, the query should be only return the first part of the article. Instead, they are returning the entire article and using css to hide a portion of it.

    That is unbelievably crap

    Surely this is a temporary solution and they haven't implemented their final code??

    Would that explain why I can often read pay-walled articles when clicking links from twitter, but not if I copy & paste the URL into a browser?

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    @No-Quarter Ah, so I'm not the only one! That's really odd!

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    @No-Quarter That sounds like a different problem

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    @Duluth said in Paywall at NZ Herald...:

    @No-Quarter That sounds like a different problem

    It's a great problem. Hope they don't figure it out 🙂

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    I had a look tonight and this weird thing is understandably not premium content, it doesn't really make sense or have a point .

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz//sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12228452&ref=clavis

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    @jegga said in Paywall at NZ Herald...:

    I had a look tonight and this weird thing is understandably not premium content, it doesn't really make sense or have a point .

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz//sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12228452&ref=clavis

    The headline should actually be "journalist adds hype to local clash".

    The horror.

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    @jegga said in Paywall at NZ Herald...:

    I had a look tonight and this weird thing is understandably not premium content, it doesn't really make sense or have a point .

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz//sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12228452&ref=clavis

    Ali vs Foreman....Stephen Jones vs reality.

    Fuck that’s good humour.

    It is nice of Barnes not to mention Owen Franks ball carrying though.

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  • DuluthD Offline
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    A paywall works if you have something of value

    Patrick McKendry does not have anything interesting to say and often makes basic errors. For instance this was in a paywalled article about Papali'i

    At 1.91m and 95kg, but with genuine pace which he revealed in scoring a try in the corner after blowing past Beauden Barrett last weekend, it may be that Papalii's long-term position is openside flanker.
    

    I'm guessing those stats are from an age restricted team a few years ago. Anyone can see Papali'i is a lot bigger than 95kgs.

    The Blues and AB's sites both list Papali'i as 1.93m and 113kg.. thats a pretty good size for a blindside

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    @Duluth IMO there are very few journalists - let alone sports journalists - who properly research their articles. They're either inadequate, lazy or under so much time pressure that they skip searching for facts from reliable sources. Well-referenced Wikipedia articles are often better than what they produce. And as far as writing is concerned, some journalists have no clue about grammar, punctuation and spelling. Proofreading finished texts is, apparently, also something that doesn't happen anymore. I'm not sure whether it's due to the training they've had, or working in click-bait driven media where every second counts, but it only seems to be getting worse and worse. And then I haven't even started yet about the author-less articles. I can't imagine paying for these low-quality write-ups.

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    @Stargazer said in Paywall at NZ Herald...:

    @Duluth IMO there are very few journalists - let alone sports journalists - who properly research their articles. They're either inadequate, lazy or under so much time pressure that they skip searching for facts from reliable sources. Well-referenced Wikipedia articles are often better than what they produce. And as far as writing is concerned, some journalists have no clue about grammar, punctuation and spelling. Proofreading finished texts is, apparently, also something that doesn't happen anymore. I'm not sure whether it's due to the training they've had, or working in click-bait driven media where every second counts, but it only seems to be getting worse and worse. And then I haven't even started yet about the author-less articles. I can't imagine paying for these low-quality write-ups.

    What's the old saying ? Pay peanuts get monkeys ? Journalism in a nutshell

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    @MN5 said in Paywall at NZ Herald...:

    @Stargazer said in Paywall at NZ Herald...:

    @Duluth IMO there are very few journalists - let alone sports journalists - who properly research their articles. They're either inadequate, lazy or under so much time pressure that they skip searching for facts from reliable sources. Well-referenced Wikipedia articles are often better than what they produce. And as far as writing is concerned, some journalists have no clue about grammar, punctuation and spelling. Proofreading finished texts is, apparently, also something that doesn't happen anymore. I'm not sure whether it's due to the training they've had, or working in click-bait driven media where every second counts, but it only seems to be getting worse and worse. And then I haven't even started yet about the author-less articles. I can't imagine paying for these low-quality write-ups.

    What's the old saying ? Pay peanuts get monkeys ? Journalism in a nutshell

    I think it's evolved.

    "Pay monkeys, get faeces thrown in your face"

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