GOT - there will be spoilers
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@Virgil yeah, was great, although IIRC he changed his character voices slightly in the last book?
I recall the chapter where Sansa was whisked out of KL and she didnt know who had got her out, and then you hear the voice and you could tell instantly it was LF.
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@Paekakboyz said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
I read the 5th book ages ago, from memory he kept adding new characters and story arcs which is a real bugbear of mine in already complex books (Wheel of Time anyone!). It felt like that, and the change in writing to focus on one person at a time started to fragment the story. Once I hear we have a release date for the next book I'll start a re-read but not until then.
My thoughts exactly. It was getting far too much, leading further and further away from a conclusion.
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@Paekakboyz said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
I read the 5th book ages ago, from memory he kept adding new characters and story arcs which is a real bugbear of mine in already complex books (Wheel of Time anyone!). It felt like that, and the change in writing to focus on one person at a time started to fragment the story. Once I hear we have a release date for the next book I'll start a re-read but not until then.
Yep, it becomes too complicated and you almost need reference books around you to follow who is who, where is where etc. The Quintin chapters in particular seem a waste of time, but maybe this was a way to get Dorn against Dani? You also had Baristan chapters as well.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel man I am hazy on details. I do like details (also a HUGE fan of the Malazan series) but I think you can still do it in an engaging way, otherwise it can just get too dense and slows things down.
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Aussie man reviews have been outstanding throughout. Good mix of a hilarious summary and then some deeper analysis.
Great quote in here, something along the lines of "GOT has done what its always done getting people angry that the plot didn't go the way they want".
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@Catogrande said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
Yeah, that jump from Drogon flying off, to the gathering of the great and good left a lot untold. Picking at nits here but I also felt underwhelmed by the Small Council meeting which was all a little too light-hearted for me, but as @Kirwan said, they were never going to satisfy everyone.
Overall a fantastic series, great cinematography, great acting and characters, great storylines, just brilliant, compelling TV.
Yeah - I don't have any problem with the way they've finished it up - I'm pretty sure George has given them a list of the main plot outcomes and the main things that will be missing are the details of how the various pieces have moved to the endgame. I don't expect significant changes in the main plot points if the books ever get written i.e. Bran will be on the throne, Jon will kill Dany, etc.
Main thing that has disappointed me is how rushed this last season has seemed - it's like we've been watching extended highlights of GoT, rather than the whole game, so to speak.
I was quite taken aback to jump from Drogon flying off to Sansa sitting in the middle of the meeting. A month has passed we discover. But, who stopped Grey Worm from killing Jon Snow (or Tyrion for that matter) - compare that with the amount of time spent on Jamie arresting Ned Stark and Ned in prison in the first series. Sansa has traveled from Winterfell to KL and nothing worth remarking about on the way. We had a whole season of Arya and the Hound touring about having adventures, but there's nothing worth showing of their trip to KL. They might as well have caught the bus.
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@Chris-B yep, that really killed the vibe mid-episode. Would have been good to see Jon get caught then a bit of a ruckus while they call the various lords together. Also unsure why Bronn would be on the council but not at the table deciding who was king?
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I swear theguardian.com is fast becoming my favourite parody news site
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@Kirwan said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
Ok, thanks guys.
I liked this;
Oh and if your going to jump into the books I’d recommend going old school and getting ‘real’ books. I normally read via the kindle but for SOIAF it felt deserving of an actual book.
Got them in Hardback, very impressive too they are huge. -
And who saw Jon kill Dany, no one, so why did he fess up, knowing Grey Worm was looking to kill people who slighted his queen in any way, let alone shank her!
So, why not fabricate a story, I went up to break up with her, she got her crazy eyes, jumped on Drogon and got out of Dodge.
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@taniwharugby said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
And who saw Jon kill Dany, no one, so why did he fess up, knowing Grey Worm was looking to kill people who slighted his queen in any way, let alone shank her!
So, why not fabricate a story, I went up to break up with her, she got her crazy eyes, jumped on Drogon and got out of Dodge.
...leaving behind a huge pool of blood in the snow..
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@Virgil said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
@taniwharugby said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
And who saw Jon kill Dany, no one, so why did he fess up, knowing Grey Worm was looking to kill people who slighted his queen in any way, let alone shank her!
So, why not fabricate a story, I went up to break up with her, she got her crazy eyes, jumped on Drogon and got out of Dodge.
...leaving behind a huge pool of blood in the snow..
given her behaviour just recently, it's pretty clear she was on her rags...
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@Virgil you know snow is pretty much water right? And it was still snowing...could also have pointed at the iron throne and said look, she was so upset she did that...who would have believed the dragon did it because if his mother couldn't have it, no one could.
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@taniwharugby said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
@Virgil you know snow is pretty much water right? And it was still snowing...could also have pointed at the iron throne and said look, she was so upset she did that...who would have believed the dragon did it because if his mother couldn't have it, no one could.
It was ash, not snow. You know....from that inferno massacre you just saw.
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I enjoyed it as it gave good closure. But again the condensed nature of it meant you jolted around a bit. During the battle it looked like a nice normal autumn afternoon. Next day Snow everywhere, ohh yeah they made a big deal Winter has come and it lasts years and years in this world. Few months after the shanking. Of its blazing hot sun again? What?
Also Tyrion convincing John to do the shanking, made no sense he walked right up behind her while she was doing her Nuremberg rally. He could have done it then if he felt it was so important. Why did he only think of it after? He expected to die for quitting as hand so he had nothing stopping him.
Would have been nice to know why there is a nights watch? What are they watching for now. Also might be handy to set it up near the big fuck off hole in the wall.
My wife liked Arya going off exploring I thought they may have wanted to set it up a bit more. I was hoping a kraken was going to smash her ship.
I was thinking there were 4 types of characters in the story
Pure Evil - Joffrey, Bolton, Cersi, Euron types
Evil but think they are good - Dany, Tywin, Sparrow dude
Good but flawed - Robb, Jamie, Jorah, Theon, Hound
Good - Everyone who lived till the end.Surprising really you would think if they were subverting TV tropes more of the pure good guys would have died.