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    #1806

    @African-Monkey Havili didn't play rugby again until about a month ago. Looking forward to seeing him in the NPC.

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    @Tim That's true, but last season he should have been given more of an opportunity, and as @Duluth said, we also have Adrian Choat floating around so there really was no need to sign Jed Brown.

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    When was the last season the Blues didn't finish last in the NZ conference? Perennial underachievers.

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    @sparky said in Blues 2019:

    When was the last season the Blues didn't finish last in the NZ conference? Perennial underachievers.

    2013 I think

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    @Machpants said in Blues 2019:

    @sparky said in Blues 2019:

    When was the last season the Blues didn't finish last in the NZ conference? Perennial underachievers.

    2013 I think

    Ha ha. That’s gold. All the success and now being mirrored in reverse.

    I can’t see the crusaders letting that happen to them.

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    @Hooroo The Blues are still second to the Crusaders on most titles won, equal with the Bulls.

    Admittedly the last one was a wee while ago!

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    @Machpants said in Blues 2019:

    @Hooroo The Blues are still second to the Crusaders on most titles won, equal with the Bulls.

    Admittedly the last one was a wee while ago!

    That’s my point and what I find funny. Blues have had untold success. Now they are a laughing stock of rugby.

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    @Hooroo said in Blues 2019:

    @Machpants said in Blues 2019:

    @sparky said in Blues 2019:

    When was the last season the Blues didn't finish last in the NZ conference? Perennial underachievers.

    2013 I think

    Ha ha. That’s gold. All the success and now being mirrored in reverse.

    I can’t see the crusaders letting that happen to them.

    That's what people said about the blues too. All it takes is a couple of crap coaches,a dodgy recruiter and poor administration. ..

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    @nzzp said in Blues 2019:

    @Hooroo said in Blues 2019:

    @Machpants said in Blues 2019:

    @sparky said in Blues 2019:

    When was the last season the Blues didn't finish last in the NZ conference? Perennial underachievers.

    2013 I think

    Ha ha. That’s gold. All the success and now being mirrored in reverse.

    I can’t see the crusaders letting that happen to them.

    That's what people said about the blues too. All it takes is a couple of crap coaches,a dodgy recruiter and poor administration. ..

    That’s a lot of holes lining up.

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    @nzzp Blues last made the final in 03, so for the Crusaders to be as bad they'd need to not make the finals again until 2035 or so!

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    @Hooroo said in Blues 2019:

    @nzzp said in Blues 2019:

    @Hooroo said in Blues 2019:

    @Machpants said in Blues 2019:

    @sparky said in Blues 2019:

    When was the last season the Blues didn't finish last in the NZ conference? Perennial underachievers.

    2013 I think

    Ha ha. That’s gold. All the success and now being mirrored in reverse.

    I can’t see the crusaders letting that happen to them.

    That's what people said about the blues too. All it takes is a couple of crap coaches,a dodgy recruiter and poor administration. ..

    That’s a lot of holes lining up.

    Just imagine how the canes turn out if Hammett get another couple of years. The destruction would be total

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    #1817

    Just realised the 'saders have been in more finals than the rest of the NZ teams put together - WOW

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    @African-Monkey said in Blues 2019:

    @Tim That's true, but last season he should have been given more of an opportunity, and as @Duluth said, we also have Adrian Choat floating around so there really was no need to sign Jed Brown.

    Choat would be a good option because he covers 7&8

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    well thank fuck that season is well and truely over

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    replied to Tim on last edited by Nogusta
    #1820

    @Tim Havili will be back with Ta$man for the M10 season, this time on a full M10 contract so probably won't be suiting up for the Blues. Not in the near future anyway

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    @Duluth Choat has been having a Player of the Year calibre season for Waitemata. Really hope he features in M10

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    Was thinking yesterday about what the hell we can do to improve the mental strength fo the side. If I was coach (thank fark I'm not, I'd be shit but enthusiastic), I'd be straight onto the phone to Sir Graham.

    Think about it - he took the ABs from a flaky mental side, and bedded in a massive culture change that led to back to back world cups. He's done it before, he can help do it again. The Blues have fixable technical deficiencies, but it's the top two inches that smashes us week after week.

    He's also had to deal with not just elite NZ players, but also get Wales in the right head space to play their best ... and I think you could see his input last year in the Auckland side. The Blues had numerous offers to help early on when the wheels fell off in the early 2010s, but were too introverted, dysfunctional or arrogant to really engage with it. I think bringing in someone like SGH with a tight focus on mental skills could only be massively beneficial in the changing shed.

    So there ya go. It's only one way of tackling it, but a hail mary to Sir Graham is where I'd go

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    @nzzp Sir Graham would probably say give Gilbert a call.

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    @taniwharugby said in Blues 2019:

    @nzzp Sir Graham would probably say give Gilbert a call.

    I heard Henry on the phone on ZB. His recall seems a bit poor these days.

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    @nzzp said in Blues 2019:

    Was thinking yesterday about what the hell we can do to improve the mental strength fo the side. If I was coach (thank fark I'm not, I'd be shit but enthusiastic), I'd be straight onto the phone to Sir Graham.

    Think about it - he took the ABs from a flaky mental side, and bedded in a massive culture change that led to back to back world cups. He's done it before, he can help do it again. The Blues have fixable technical deficiencies, but it's the top two inches that smashes us week after week.

    He's also had to deal with not just elite NZ players, but also get Wales in the right head space to play their best ... and I think you could see his input last year in the Auckland side. The Blues had numerous offers to help early on when the wheels fell off in the early 2010s, but were too introverted, dysfunctional or arrogant to really engage with it. I think bringing in someone like SGH with a tight focus on mental skills could only be massively beneficial in the changing shed.

    So there ya go. It's only one way of tackling it, but a hail mary to Sir Graham is where I'd go

    A supporting role like how Auckland used him would probably be useful.

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