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Can't for the life of me work out why people who need to work to feed their families aren't opening their arms for the death cultist brigade
In all seriousness though when you get a mob this could end very badly for some unfortunate hippies who may not be familiar with the stress of a daily London tube commute
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@Siam Maybe they might have gotten away with it on the way to work..but on the way home where folk need to go and feed their kids..nah that's just suicide. At this point I'm starting to think ER are being bankrolled by Big Coal such is their effectiveness at gaining public support to their cause.
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@Rembrandt said in Climate Change #3 & Other Environmental Issues:
@Siam Maybe they might have gotten away with it on the way to work..but on the way home where folk need to go and feed their kids..nah that's just suicide. At this point I'm starting to think ER are being bankrolled by Big Coal such is their effectiveness at gaining public support to their cause.
It was on the way to work wasn't it?
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@Bones said in Climate Change #3 & Other Environmental Issues:
@Rembrandt said in Climate Change #3 & Other Environmental Issues:
@Siam Maybe they might have gotten away with it on the way to work..but on the way home where folk need to go and feed their kids..nah that's just suicide. At this point I'm starting to think ER are being bankrolled by Big Coal such is their effectiveness at gaining public support to their cause.
It was on the way to work wasn't it?
Yeah it was. I read the assumption that many working class commuters at that time would be on zero hours contracts, so if they didn't turn up on time = no pay. Or shift workers coming home from a night's work. Which might partly explain the furious reaction.
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@Rembrandt said in Climate Change #3 & Other Environmental Issues:
Can't for the life of me work out why people who need to work to feed their families aren't opening their arms for the death cultist brigade
In all seriousness though when you get a mob this could end very badly for some unfortunate hippies who may not be familiar with the stress of a daily London tube commute
Right at the end of the clip: "Protest now you fucking dickhead"
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Seems the whole point of ER is creating situations of inconvenience for as many people as possible, and then harp on about how the implications for the future will be even more inconvenient... face palm city. Protesting on an electric train...
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Right, so XR started a new protest at Oxford Circus about 30mins ago. The police have made all XR protests in London illegal now, for this one the ran out and hastily erected the teepee pole thing when the lights were red, then a load of people put bicycle D-lock around their necks attaching themselves to the poles. Big police presence as you can see, everyone there risking arrest.
Anyway, as it's right outside my work, I wandered down to have a chat to some of them. Couple of students skipping out of uni, they were really friendly. It all comes down to ideology. They think best course of action is shrink western economies and redistribute all the wealth. I said capitalism / economic growth is the only thing that's going to generate the technological progress to solve/adapt to climate change. A left wing vs right wing approach.
We had some common ground in favour a global emissions trading scheme / robust carbon price to create an economic forcing function that pushes towards cleaner technology. And a reformed economic system that better captures the externalities and public cost of goods and services. They were really intelligent, well-spoken people.
I questioned whether blocking intersections is just going to piss people off more than help the cause. They said doing nothing hasn't really been working, which is also true.
They said people in 3rd world countries were seeing the effects of climate change now, and our media refuses to show it (got a bit tin foil hat-y here). I said its hard to deny those same people the chance to grow into a first world standard of living, if they can't have the emissions that go along with it. Then the discussion circled (predictably) back to wealth distribution.
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@booboo said in Climate Change #3 & Other Environmental Issues:
@TeWaio said in Climate Change #3 & Other Environmental Issues:
capitalism / economic growth is the only thing that's going to generate the technological progress to solve/adapt to climate change.
This is pretty much my opinion
It's not an opinion, it's an historical fact good enough to make predictions qhen compared to every other model.
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@antipodean said in Climate Change #3 & Other Environmental Issues:
@booboo said in Climate Change #3 & Other Environmental Issues:
@TeWaio said in Climate Change #3 & Other Environmental Issues:
capitalism / economic growth is the only thing that's going to generate the technological progress to solve/adapt to climate change.
This is pretty much my opinion
It's not an opinion, it's an historical fact good enough to make predictions qhen compared to every other model.
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@antipodean said in Climate Change #3 & Other Environmental Issues:
@booboo said in Climate Change #3 & Other Environmental Issues:
@TeWaio said in Climate Change #3 & Other Environmental Issues:
capitalism / economic growth is the only thing that's going to generate the technological progress to solve/adapt to climate change.
This is pretty much my opinion
It's not an opinion, it's an historical fact good enough to make predictions qhen compared to every other model.
fake news!
Hate speech!
Tweet sized responses?
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@jegga that is pretty cool, and a tangible and seemingly science based approach. Funding green projects to offset industry in developing countries is hopefully a way forward. And if those green projects have economic benefits like this one then let's go! This could be an actual good thing to come from the UN.
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@jegga those "solutions" don't mention dismantling the Patriarchy so I can't see how they would work.
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@No-Quarter said in Climate Change #3 & Other Environmental Issues:
@jegga those "solutions" don't mention dismantling the Patriarchy so I can't see how they would work.
Less of the mansplaining thanks .
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