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    @Snowy said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @Jailbreak7 said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @Chris-B I thought Peyper for our semi as well. Don't want to think about the Final yet.

    Nobody should be thinking about the final yet. Particularly Kiwis.

    Nah! I'm taking a positive approach. I can't even countenance a loss to the poms, so it simply won't happen.

    As long as the players and coaches don't look too far ahead, of course.

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    @Crucial said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    Attack the strengths is usually the way to go when you work out what the other team will be planning for.

    We know that linespeed is still a big part of the England defence and that we have been putting together ways to combat that.
    With Ireland we know they would hope to put up a wall to stop our attack so gave them the ball and asked them to be creative. It was our defence that then caused their errors which we attacked off.
    With England I think we will hold on to the ball a bit more, suck their back three up to fill holes in the line then plug the corners. Play them at their own game and take away their strength

    Yea, winning the territorial battle will be key - England simply do not play any rugby inside their own half, so we need to keep them there and ask them to kick the ball back to us. The Aussies did half of England's job for them on the weekend with their inability / refusal to exit their own 22m after kick offs.

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    @Jailbreak7 said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @Chris-B I thought Peyper for our semi as well. Don't want to think about the Final yet.

    I'm not sure how happy I'd be with him, TBH. He reffed well in the first Lions test in 2017, but he's also the nonce that didn't card Farrell for one of his blatant shoulder charges (I believe it was on Rodda).

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    @junior Yeah that's a good point - if you plug it deep, it's not exactly a scary prospect to have their back 3 and/or 10 run it back - which they most likely wouldn't anyway. Watson is the scariest there and while he's great going forward I don't see him as dangerous when well behind the line.

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    There really is something about the English, isn't there? Absolutely no chance of us getting ambushed when this kind of tosh is being written...

    New Zealand will be less profligate; they will also be less tactically gung-ho and possess a far better kicking game. But England, unlike Ireland, are a team on the up, having started to marry physical dynamism with surer judgment and calmer decision-making. Do the All Blacks have prop forwards who offer a greater carrying threat than Sinckler and Mako Vunipola? Do they have a hooker in better form than Jamie George? Are Brodie Retallick and Sam Whitelock superior locks to Maro Itoje? If, on the day, the answer to even some of those questions is “no” then England will feel they can, at worst, rattle the All Blacks’ cage.

    New Zealand are ultimate challenge but England can face them down

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    Kick the ball to the stratosphere for Daly to have loads of pressure on him when he's attempting to catch it.

    He'll shit the bed. Tries will come.

    And Smith to make sniping runs from the back of the scrum and ruck.

    Youngs is fast going forward. Not so much going backwards.

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    Or just tell them that although they might have decided to win the game, the way they will do it will need to be agreed on in the House of Commons.

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    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    Kick the ball to the stratosphere for Daly to have loads of pressure on him when he's attempting to catch it.

    He'll shit the bed. Tries will come.

    Daly got badly exposed on defence vs Aust with poor positional play and a lack of pace.

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    @Billy-Tell said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    Frizzel or PT for the bench??

    I’d probably go Frizell

    Even before the news of Todd's injury I would have been tempted to play Frizell. While Patty T would provide impact off the bench and some size, at least one of BBBR or Whitelock will play the full 80 mins so having 2 reserve locks is redundant. Barrett could be used at 6 and then lock again.

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    @junior said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    There really is something about the English, isn't there? Absolutely no chance of us getting ambushed when this kind of tosh is being written...

    New Zealand will be less profligate; they will also be less tactically gung-ho and possess a far better kicking game. But England, unlike Ireland, are a team on the up, having started to marry physical dynamism with surer judgment and calmer decision-making. Do the All Blacks have prop forwards who offer a greater carrying threat than Sinckler and Mako Vunipola? Do they have a hooker in better form than Jamie George? Are Brodie Retallick and Sam Whitelock superior locks to Maro Itoje? If, on the day, the answer to even some of those questions is “no” then England will feel they can, at worst, rattle the All Blacks’ cage.

    New Zealand are ultimate challenge but England can face them down

    And people wonder why the English are the team we love to hate, and beat

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  • Billy WebbB Offline
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    @Crucial said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    Or just tell them that although they might have decided to win the game, the way they will do it will need to be agreed on in the House of Commons.

    That, for me, is the one-line post of the year!

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    @canefan said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @junior said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    There really is something about the English, isn't there? Absolutely no chance of us getting ambushed when this kind of tosh is being written...

    New Zealand will be less profligate; they will also be less tactically gung-ho and possess a far better kicking game. But England, unlike Ireland, are a team on the up, having started to marry physical dynamism with surer judgment and calmer decision-making. Do the All Blacks have prop forwards who offer a greater carrying threat than Sinckler and Mako Vunipola? Do they have a hooker in better form than Jamie George? Are Brodie Retallick and Sam Whitelock superior locks to Maro Itoje? If, on the day, the answer to even some of those questions is “no” then England will feel they can, at worst, rattle the All Blacks’ cage.

    New Zealand are ultimate challenge but England can face them down

    And people wonder why the English are the team we love to hate, and beat

    Yes and I suppose it's fortunate that in general we do not tend to judge New Zealanders on Stuff.co.nz etc articles.

    Sheesh!

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    @Catogrande dont worry mate you're ok. Exceptional, but ok 😉

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    @junior said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    Are Brodie Retallick and Sam Whitelock superior locks to Maro Itoje?

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  • BerniesCornerB Offline
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    #79

    At 6 I'd play Barrett in the first half and Savea in the second

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    replied to NTA on last edited by
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    @NTA said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @junior said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    Are Brodie Retallick and Sam Whitelock superior locks to Maro Itoje?

    images (5).jpeg

    I think that's worth upvoting ...

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    Sam Cane injury free?

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  • BlackheartB Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #82

    The Boks must be stoked that they lost to NZ in the pools stage...Japan then Wales V Ireland and England?

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  • No QuarterN Offline
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    @NTA said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @junior said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    Are Brodie Retallick and Sam Whitelock superior locks to Maro Itoje?

    images (5).jpeg

    I wouldn't pick any English players in a combined ABs/England 15.

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  • KiwiMurphK Offline
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    @mofitzy_ said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    Sam Cane injury free?

    Yes.

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