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    We get Nigel Owens. Great news...I can live with him not being card happy, even though it saved Ireland several times.

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    I was fascinated to see Owens and Schmidt having a long talk before the game last week (with Schmidt clearly trying to get something across, including gestures about tackling or clean outs). I wondered whether, in any way, that then influenced what he looked for at penalty time.

    Hansen didn't bother approaching Owens, although might have said hi.

    Hansen and Schmidt had a massive talk too. They look like they are pretty friendly.

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    @Richie8-7 said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    We get Nigel Owens. Great news...I can live with him not being card happy, even though it saved Ireland several times.

    Certainly better than a French alternative. I just hope he insists on England not slowing everything down again. A fast game will suit us.

    Saturday weather wise is looking good again.

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    I have to take my hat off to Shag and his team, this time last year I never thought, Franks, Bender and Ioane would not be in the 23 come semi final time. I would also not have thought Ardie would be at 6, Mounga at 10 and Bridge and Reece on the wings.

    It shows that Shag and co realised they needed to change it up to be successful at RWC, unlike Ireland who stuck with the same aging players and game plan.

    I don't think they were always this way, J Savea, NMS, Franks and a few others were kept past their prime based on experience and past achievements.

    Perhaps they had the game plan to beat the rush defence and just set about getting the best players to match.

    Maybe the losses to the Irish and some other poor performances were the catalyst to change.

    Even if we don't win the WC, I take my hat off to Shag and co for evolving and trusting their process.

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    Owens 2 weeks in a row ,

    If we win , that would seem odd if he gets the final

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    Who feels like stressing about Typhoons 20 and 21 forming? Let's hope it's not another Typhoon 19!!

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    @gt12 said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    I was fascinated to see Owens and Schmidt having a long talk before the game last week (with Schmidt clearly trying to get something across, including gestures about tackling or clean outs). I wondered whether, in any way, that then influenced what he looked for at penalty time.

    Hansen didn't bother approaching Owens, although might have said hi.

    Hansen and Schmidt had a massive talk too. They look like they are pretty friendly.

    When BB scored the try it seemed that Owens was trying everything he could not to award it....it went on and on with the TMO...I think all the accusations and sour grapes from apposing teams that Refs favour the ABs is finally paying off...Owens seemed to be trying hard not to favour the ABs in any way...

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    @Blackheart said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @gt12 said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    I was fascinated to see Owens and Schmidt having a long talk before the game last week (with Schmidt clearly trying to get something across, including gestures about tackling or clean outs). I wondered whether, in any way, that then influenced what he looked for at penalty time.

    Hansen didn't bother approaching Owens, although might have said hi.

    Hansen and Schmidt had a massive talk too. They look like they are pretty friendly.

    When BB scored the try it seemed that Owens was trying everything he could not to award it....it went on and on with the TMO...I think all the accusations and sour grapes from apposing teams that Refs favour the ABs is finally paying off...Owens seemed to be trying hard not to favour the ABs in any way...

    What a load of shit!!! Take the tin foil hat off and enjoy the rugby

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    @Hooroo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @Blackheart said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @gt12 said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    I was fascinated to see Owens and Schmidt having a long talk before the game last week (with Schmidt clearly trying to get something across, including gestures about tackling or clean outs). I wondered whether, in any way, that then influenced what he looked for at penalty time.

    Hansen didn't bother approaching Owens, although might have said hi.

    Hansen and Schmidt had a massive talk too. They look like they are pretty friendly.

    When BB scored the try it seemed that Owens was trying everything he could not to award it....it went on and on with the TMO...I think all the accusations and sour grapes from apposing teams that Refs favour the ABs is finally paying off...Owens seemed to be trying hard not to favour the ABs in any way...

    What a load of shit!!! Take the tin foil hat off and enjoy the rugby

    There almost was a communication snafu that disallowed BBs try. Quite bizarre

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    @canefan not really, he was watching it on the big screen and thought he saw Reese touch the ball. The TMO had a screen a few inches away and corrected him, they worked together to make the right call.

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    @Kirwan said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @canefan not really, he was watching it on the big screen and thought he saw Reese touch the ball. The TMO had a screen a few inches away and corrected him, they worked together to make the right call.

    I remember hearing the exchange, nigel asked if the black player touched the ball during the tackle, the TMO said more than once that he had only to finally correct himself. I dont think he ever thought Reece had touched it but his language was poor. Right decision in the end

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    @canefan I was happy with it as in real time it looked like an AB knock-on and on first replay (in the pub) it looked like head to ball and hence offside. So it was exactly what the TMO is for - to check exactly what happened. He did and the try was awarded.

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    @KiwiPie said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @canefan I was happy with it as in real time it looked like an AB knock-on and on first replay (in the pub) it looked like head to ball and hence offside. So it was exactly what the TMO is for - to check exactly what happened. He did and the try was awarded.

    One of the better uses and exchanges I thought.

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    And the on-field decision was to award a try, so it's not like he was against it initially.

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    @ACT-Crusader said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @KiwiPie said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @canefan I was happy with it as in real time it looked like an AB knock-on and on first replay (in the pub) it looked like head to ball and hence offside. So it was exactly what the TMO is for - to check exactly what happened. He did and the try was awarded.

    One of the better uses and exchanges I thought.

    I am sure if I went back it was all good. At the time I was in a heightened state of excitement as one coach used to say

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    @canefan said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @ACT-Crusader said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @KiwiPie said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @canefan I was happy with it as in real time it looked like an AB knock-on and on first replay (in the pub) it looked like head to ball and hence offside. So it was exactly what the TMO is for - to check exactly what happened. He did and the try was awarded.

    One of the better uses and exchanges I thought.

    I am sure if I went back it was all good. At the time I was in a heightened state of excitement as one coach used to say

    boomfa!

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    @nzzp said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @canefan said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @ACT-Crusader said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @KiwiPie said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @canefan I was happy with it as in real time it looked like an AB knock-on and on first replay (in the pub) it looked like head to ball and hence offside. So it was exactly what the TMO is for - to check exactly what happened. He did and the try was awarded.

    One of the better uses and exchanges I thought.

    I am sure if I went back it was all good. At the time I was in a heightened state of excitement as one coach used to say

    boomfa!

    Maximum arousal

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    Saying read has a tight calf , didn’t train , spent the morning on the bike in the gym

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    Well I certainly agree with Eddie here

    Jones had also hit out at the New Zealand media claiming its rugby reporters are just "just fans with keyboards".
    
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    @canefan said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @ACT-Crusader said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @KiwiPie said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @canefan I was happy with it as in real time it looked like an AB knock-on and on first replay (in the pub) it looked like head to ball and hence offside. So it was exactly what the TMO is for - to check exactly what happened. He did and the try was awarded.

    One of the better uses and exchanges I thought.

    I am sure if I went back it was all good. At the time I was in a heightened state of excitement as one coach used to say

    Nah that's exactly what happened. The tmo was saying yes his head hit it (maybe talking about the hand?) and Nigel was saying the same obviously talking about the head hitting the ball. Luckily just before Nige was about to say no try, the tmo quickly explained himself.

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